i did see a thing on food network about corn going through your body undigested..yet almost every culture int he world uses one of 4 grains, oats, corn, wheat or rice.
The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings. - Masanobu Fukuoka
The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings. - Masanobu Fukuoka
RawVim wrote:
Looking to nature for an answer, I think if we were designed to eat grains, then we would have a gizzard.
Brice Moss wrote:
I think a lot of the problems with eating grains come from industrial modification of grains, to make white flour removes a whole lot more from the wheat than just grinding it does, and anyone familiar with whole grains knows that fresh ground flour from whole grains will go rancid in a matter of weeks or less
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Always put your eggs in one basket.........why would you carry two?
I have type II diabetes. I recommend Diabetes Solution by Richard K. Bernstein M.D. whether or not you have any blood glucose problems. It has some eye opening nutritional information that hasn't been adulterated by any sort of funding from the food industry like most "scientific studies." I eat 15 grams of carbs per meal per day. That is what is best for me. It is not difficult if you know how to use the carbs. Regarding fats.....fats are not bad for you..... I suggest this more truthful information regarding fats:Chefmom wrote:
I am reading "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. It is a look at all the medical studies on nutrition, heart disease, cholesterol, fat and carbs over the last 100+ years. Okay, it's a tough read, very scientific, heavy on names, dates, places etc. And.....yea.....it's a bit boring at times.
BUT, what is most amazing is how a study comes out with a completely different end result than the doctor or scientist WANTED it to come out and so they just disregard that information and say what they want. Of course fat is bad, everyone knows that, but the study says something else, but we already know that fat is bad, so we aren't going to talk about the study, we'll just keep on saying what we already knew..............
If you want to dive into the politics of the medical studies and heart disease, diabetes and carbohydrates then get this book. It has opened my eyes to a whole new way of thinking about food. I recently began a lowered carb diet. I really don't think I can go 0 carb cold turkey. I'm following the 100 carb per day recommendation from that move (in the other thread Fat Head). So, if I want pasta for dinner I have no other carbs that day. AND, I do not have any medical issues so I look mainly at carbs from bread, grains, pasta etc. If there are trace carbs in kale I really don't count that. Why? because what ever nutrient that are in kale out way any carbs that are present. Also I saute kale in bacon fat, butter and olive oil that I mix and keep in my fridge.
I will admit I love bacon and have always considered it a indulgence. Now I have bacon a little more regular and a bagel is an indulgence. It's quite flip flop from how I was raised!! However, I have always had croutons on my salads, so now I just have some bacon, chopped up, and I really don't miss the croutons!!
I am a "round American woman" and I didn't get this way eating high fat and a lot of meat. I got this way with carbs plain and simple. It isn't an easy road, and eating out is now a break in the diet because the world is carb, carb, carb, carb. However it is MORE filling, I am not getting the crazy cravings that I have always lived with. Now spaghetti night is a treat and steak night happens more often. I am eating WAY more veggies and sweet treats are more "treats" than an everyday thing. Not easy when you are a pastry chef who's specialty is cake. We shall see.
Tami
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
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"One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison!"
Gluten intolerance is a subset of GAPS. Gluten is a large protein molecule and is quite difficult to digest, even for people with a healthy gut. People with abnormal flora and hence damaged gut function are much less able to break gluten down. In those people where gluten absorbs partially digested the immune system can develop antibodies against it, which leads to celiac disease.
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John Polk wrote:
For your "spaghetti night", try spaghetti squash instead of pasta. As a veggie, spaghetti squash is quite bland, but slathered with a good spaghetti sauce, you will hardly notice the difference.
Jami McBride wrote:
The GAPS Diet (http://www.gapsdiet.com/FAQs.html)
My family has just started exploring the GAPS diet. We've seen many health improvements from going gluten free, adding grass-fed animal fats back into our foods, slow cooked broths, fermenting and soaking.
There are no experts, Just people with more experience.
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Dave Bennett wrote:
In my opinion that was very well stated Thelma. According to my research, the earliest "cultivated" crop in North America was Sunflowers. That makes a great deal of sense to me since it was a species of "grass" that grew wild all over the Great Plains.
That's what they did. Boiled the seeds for oil and ate the roots.Brice Moss wrote:
The clever fellows cultivating them no doubt loved the tasty root tubers, as I understand the seeds were mostly boiled for oil
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Idle dreamer
.I did not say sunflowers are grass. I said "grass."H Ludi Tyler wrote:
Except sunflowers aren't grass!
Humans stored food even when they didn't grow grains - grains became popular with settled populations and study of ancient bones shows peoples who relied on grains for the majority of their diet suffered from famine and poor health more than those who had a more varied diet.*
*opinion based on reading
reference: #9 "Agriculture is difficult, dangerous and unhealthy". http://theanarchistlibrary.org/HTML/Jason_Godesky__Thirty_Theses.html#toc10
More about growing food: http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2008/05/agriculture-or-permaculture-why-words.html
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Brice Moss wrote:
speaking from a biology perspective our specific adaptation for eating grains can be seen in the flat grinding teat at the back of our mouths and the enzyme amylase in our saliva which is necessary to the breakdown of starch into simple sugars. without the amylase starch would have no nutritive value for us.
Paleo Gardener wrote:
The grinding teeth are probably for nuts, as raw grains are virtually indigestible.
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Dave Bennett wrote:
.I did not say sunflowers are grass. I said "grass."
Idle dreamer
Jonathan_Byron wrote:
But I don't see grain as forbidden fruit - our ancestors probably ate some grain in the fall even going back a million years or more.
Idle dreamer
Paleo Gardener wrote:
The grinding teeth are probably for nuts, as raw grains are virtually indigestible.
Brice Moss wrote:
The clever fellows cultivating them no doubt loved the tasty root tubers, as I understand the seeds were mostly boiled for oil
Rocky Mountain bee plant is the 4thJohn Polk wrote:
The sunflower seeds were also ground into a flour used for making breads.
As the "4th Sister", it was most commonly grown on the north edge of the garden, where it would look over the crops throughout the day.
Brice Moss wrote:
methods for preparing grains and soaking the tannins out of nuts are both almost as old as domesticated fire, so these are a part of many of our ancestral food supplies.
Paleo Gardener wrote:
True, but that doesn't mean our bodies have adapted to eating grains. Soaking and sprouting grains does remove some of the problems associated with them, but not all of them. Grains, even when properly prepared (and especially when they are not soaked or sprouted before cooking) still contain various digestion-inhibiting enzymes and gluten itself does not get digested that well. It bears remembering that the whole point of a grain is to not be eaten. Only creatures with specific adaptations (grain-eating birds, rodents, etc) can digest it without harm. There was once a species of grain-eating humans (with large jaws designed for grinding raw grain), but they went extinct while we, the meat-vegetable-and-nut-eating humans survived.
That said, SOME grains are OK. I eat some myself. If I had acreage to grow my own food on, I wouldn't eat any. Mostly because growing and processing my own grain would be a PAIN compared to other permaculture crops.
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