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Ben Zumeta wrote: I honestly signed up for patreon in large part to give something back for what I have received from Permies and your other work.



Neat!

So, just stay the course?

 
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Tom Rutledge wrote: I love this guy : 

   ( https://www.patreon.com/user?u=2945881 ; )



I've seen a lot of those vids.   And his patreon page appears to have no rewards?

 
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Tom Rutledge wrote:Okay, some self identification time.  I'm part of the class A) type.   Paul has a documented and durable (ish) positive effect on the world.   I would like to reward and help that effect. 

If nothing else, the single train full of poison that the lawn care articles saved from going into the lawns of the world would be worth it.  



I feel like I stumbled onto the stuff about lawn care.   And then when I figured out what I was doing, I tried to direct more attention to the lawn care stuff.  And then I tried to create the pages for cast iron and DE with similar thoughts of reducing toxin use. 

I feel like I have about 20 more articles like those, but each day stuff happens and I cannot get to them.  BUT it does feel a lot like the patreon stuff is fixing that.
 
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As for the tie in to patreon, I feel I need to make sure the patreon folks get something more than the folks that don't support my patreon stuff. 



Maybe?  More likely, maybe not. 

If I give to my local NPR station, I'm not giving so that I get the content and other people don't get the content.  Maybe I get a t-shirt, but I really don't care about the t-shirt. I care about the news. Other people getting the news doesn't reduce the value of my getting the news.

The people who keep local symphonies going aren't contributing so they are the only ones who can hear the symphony.  Other people getting to hear the symphony doesn't make the symphony suck for me. I just want symphony. 

I'm going to make an educated guess that your patrons don't think that other people getting to listen to a podcast makes the podcast suck. They just want the podcast. 

I think you can quit worry about this and just set up a camera, point to a flower in the ground, start talking, and people will be happy. 
 
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K Putnam wrote:

As for the tie in to patreon, I feel I need to make sure the patreon folks get something more than the folks that don't support my patreon stuff. 



Maybe?  More likely, maybe not. 

If I give to my local NPR station, I'm not giving so that I get the content and other people don't get the content.  Maybe I get a t-shirt, but I really don't care about the t-shirt. I care about the news. Other people getting the news doesn't reduce the value of my getting the news.

The people who keep local symphonies going aren't contributing so they are the only ones who can hear the symphony.  Other people getting to hear the symphony doesn't make the symphony suck for me. I just want symphony. 

I'm going to make an educated guess that your patrons don't think that other people getting to listen to a podcast makes the podcast suck. They just want the podcast. 

I think you can quit worry about this and just set up a camera, point to a flower in the ground, start talking, and people will be happy. 



I confess that I am a broken person.  There are things where I fall very short, and the same programming makes it so there are some things I am (apparently) very good at.   So I perpetually hope that my upsides outweigh my downsides.

I understand that some people will throw coin into the pot because "hell, I tipped the pizza guy eight bucks for doing a job for which he is already paid.   I don't mind giving paul a buck for 500 hours of stuff I have consumed and like far more than what the pizza guy brought." 

I even understand that each person might have a different reason why they are putting money into this stuff. 

But I still need to give the patreon supporters something more than what the general public gets.  The world then makes sense to me. 

It's like kickstarter makes sense to me:  you put money in and you get stuff.   Some of the other crowdfunding things don't make sense to me:  somebody says "i would like some money please" and people give millions.   The end.   It happens all the time.  I think that there is some sort of secret language spoken there that I don't hear or read.  A secret code maybe. 

At the same time, if some super rich person came and said "I like your stuff.  I want to see you get more done.  Here is ten million dollars."  I can understand that.  I suppose I could understand that for others too, on a smaller scale.  At the same time, if somebody gives me ten million dollars, I am going to give them a personal tour and let them stay in my house and stuff. 



 
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As one broken person to another, I salute you! And I do understand.

Just keep it fun.  Obligation poisons creativity.

Keep an eye out for interesting topics or things to film and make finding super awesome things for patrons a game.
 
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Eric of GardenFork's patreon videos are for all his patreon supporters, no matter the level.  I think he tries to put one out monthly, and if he's smart, he has it come out around the time the patreon supporters get their monthly "here's what you spent" email.  (Just to remind people of the value they are getting/supporting.)

He will often mention things he was able to purchase, like a new camera or a new monitor, thanks to the support from patreon pledges, and say "Thank You!" 
 
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I like what you're doing Paul. You seem to be back up to a solid speed and consistency. I think maybe you lost a big chunk of folks when you went dark on the podcasts for a while. I know I lost track in that timeframe and am just getting back, what is it, a year later? It takes time to build that niche audience back up. I like what you're doing with my money and I think others will, with consistency.

These are all amazing ideas and implementation of any that work for you will improve your position.

In terms of spam, I just joke a bit as they send a Quite a few emails at the outset and it seems daily in how to improve your account. You know, the overflowing email anxiety and yelling, "why are you sending me crap", because you can't get to it all.

Thanks for  all the great work!
 
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I confess, I very, very rarely listen to podcasts. I have some of them-part of candy offered along with stuff I'm really interested in. However, I have all off a sudden had a brainwave (i'm a bit slow). When I read the dailyish email, my thought was "I'm going to set up a monthly $1 payment to patreon because I appreciate all the other stuff that Paul- and everyone else who contributes to this community-does. So feeling very proud of myself for such a novel thought duly followed the thread in order to post my intention hoping to inspire other dim witted, slow people to do the same. I was extremely humbled to scroll through the posts only to find that others (and I'm not calling them dim witted!)were already doing so and encouraging others to participate. So I can only add my small voice to the others and say" Come on, lets show our appreciation for whatever we get out of permies and complete the permie circle-Paul does more than the lion's share and we can all contribute to "care of the people", and $1/month is hardly "surplus". It just takes a bit of effort to set up-you can do it while waiting for your pizza to arrive.....

Thanks Paul, you are amazing and responsible for the start of my permaculture journey. Your site was the first to pop up when I started querying this "permaculture" that kept interfering when I was trying to find farming stuff.
 
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Podcast 373 ("do epic shit") has now been released to patreon peeps.
 
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This video was up for patreon peeps about two weeks ago and is now up for everybody!

Thanks patreon peeps for getting my youtube engine going again!

https://permies.com/t/64984/critters/Raising-Chickens-Homestead-Animals-video

We have seven more videos ready for upload, and eight more almost ready.   We also have a guy coming soon to do even more video editing!

I plan on getting a lot of this stuff up for patreon peeps before everybody else.   Thanks again!

 
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For the new chicken series, I put parts 2 though 8 up for just the patreon peeps.   I'll make them public over the next few weeks.  But for now ....  you can go put in a buck and see them..
 
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paul wheaton wrote:

  What are other folks doing?   Anybody have suggestions on what "reward" I should offer? 




A nomadic traveler guy I follow on youtube has a couple offerings I really dig. Patron only Maps and Photos.  https://www.patreon.com/FindingSimon

The maps are of places he has visited, hopes to visit, finds neat enough to put a pin on the map, etc.
The photos are of his daily travel and maybe more personal than what he would share on instagram/etc.
And a Real time updated map of his travels,

Things wheaton labs could offer:

I really enjoyed Jesse's videos; It was great to see the progress through the year and other goings on out on the lab.  Your recent posts of bringing in a full time videographer, I think, would be awesome for this.

A weekly lab update would be perfect for patreon (maybe sharing with youtube once in a while or delayed a month.)
Maybe more often than weekly if something fancy is going on.

-Ryan










 
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We are a half hour away from doing permaculture smackdown.   It is free for everybody to watch live.   And the recording is free too - usually posted the next day.  But my patreon supporters get to write to the chat thing and also put questions into the queue.  For one whole dollar, you get to ask anything you want:


https://patreon.com/paulwheaton









 
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Good idea!
 
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That is so cool, that he's sharing his extra footage with you.  I like that Justin Rhodes.
 
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Justin Rhodes stopped by a few days ago and took a bunch of video.  He then released a youtube video for free which contains:

- the berms
- the rocket mass heater in the library
- the rocket mass heater in the fisher price house
- fly your eco flag
- propane is off grid's dirty little secret
- willowonka
- willow bank
- the solar leviathan




20 minutes went up for free on youtube as a freebie to everybody, and an additional 45 minutes for my patreon peeps:

  • haybox cooker
  • rock jacks
  • junkpole fence
  • rocket mass heater smoker
  • sepp holzer's grain
  • the red cabin with experimental rocket mass heater
  • the berm shed
  • chest fridge
  • rocket oven
  • rolly shelves
  • the couch balcony
  • 8 inch batch box system
  • the easy bake coffin
  • the massive food dehydrator
  • permaculture bootcamp
  • the beginning of the skiddable canning kitchen
  • solar leviathan
  • pee palace
  • rocket water heater
  • boom squish
  • the shower shack
  • the love shack porta-cabin



  • https://patreon.com/paulwheaton




     
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    I should point out that for the video that came out today, the patreon peeps have been able to see that for five or six days.  And they now have access to two other videos that are about to go out.

     
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    Patreon peeps got to see this video two weeks early!

     
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    Gonna start a smackdown in about 8 minutes.   We will be talking about the rocket mass heater workshop jamboree which is still going on.

     
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    Permaculture smackdown starts in a few hours.  Tuesdays at 2 (mountain time).   Everybody can watch for free.  Patreon peeps get access to the interactive chat thing, so they can make points and ask questions as we go.  Plus, patreon peeps get bonus access that is NOT broadcast to hear about the things that are not fit for the public!

    https://www.patreon.com/paulwheaton

     
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    Couldn't watch the whole thing as I was at work (conveniently my lunch is from 1pm to 2pm Pacific) but quite enjoyable again this week.

    "This is not a place for debate.  It's a place to share."

    Was that the line?
     
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    Julia Winter wrote:"This is not a place for debate.  It's a place to share."

    Was that the line?




    How about "permies.com is a place for sharing rather than debating."

    ??

     
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    Always accentuating the positive.  Good job!

    Debating is sport for many people.  I think it drives gentle souls away, though.
     
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    paul wheaton wrote:Permaculture smackdown starts in a few hours.  Tuesdays at 2 (mountain time).   Everybody can watch for free.  Patreon peeps get access to the interactive chat thing, so they can make points and ask questions as we go.  Plus, patreon peeps get bonus access that is NOT broadcast to hear about the things that are not fit for the public!

    https://www.patreon.com/paulwheaton



    Another smackdown will be today at 2 (mountain).  Patreon supporters get to influence the show!
     
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    Permaculture Smackdown starts in 15 minutes.   $1 gets you a front row seat and you comments influence discussion.  That same dollar gets you dozens of other goodies and helps to propel all of my projects.

    https://www.patreon.com/paulwheaton

     
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    I signed up, then found i could listen to lofthouse part 2. Very enjoyable.

    I favored videos on your built in survey . 2 weeks ago i discovered my tv has youtube. Omg. I think i have watched zero regular tv since that discovery. Paul wheaton, abc acres, an americam homestead, gabe brown. What great knowledge. I'm just scratching the surface.



     
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    I'm working on some new videos for youtube with Dan.  The patreon support makes a big difference at getting this stuff put up!
     
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    Paul, can you go over the patreon participation. How does it work? You click on the 15 minutes heads up link and everything is there to submit the question? Is there an app (using smart phone) needed ? Can question be sent in advance thru a different medium?
     
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    wayne fajkus wrote:Paul, can you go over the patreon participation. How does it work? You click on the 15 minutes heads up link and everything is there to submit the question? Is there an app (using smart phone) needed ? Can question be sent in advance thru a different medium?



    Are you talking about the smackdown?

    The smackdown is at 2 today.  Follow the link about 10 minutes before 2 (or at any time during the smackdown) and you get a front row seat.  You are able to type stuff into the chat so we can see it during the smackdown.  And twice, so far, josiah has invited peeps to participate in the smackdown - so your video stuff is activated. 

    Does this answer your question?
     
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    Yes. Thanks
     
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    I attempted to join in then bailed out.

    I clicked the link. It had me download  a video conference app. As it loaded i read app reviews about how volume button couldnt be found and how video is " on" rather than "off" when you open app. I freaked out and had visions of me ruining your gig with a barking dog and a booger hanging out my nose.

    Humor aside,  i assume spectators are not visible when they join in to view and listen?
     
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    wayne fajkus wrote:I clicked the link. It had me download  a video conference app. As it loaded i read app reviews about how volume button couldnt be found and how video is " on" rather than "off" when you open app. I freaked out and had visions of me ruining your gig with a barking dog and a booger hanging out my nose.

    Humor aside,  i assume spectators are not visible when they join in to view and listen?



    First, how can you read anything when the app is installed?  My internet isn't all that great and the app installs super fast. Five seconds?

    There are two different links that go out.  The one you get will be view and chat only.   The other is for me and josiah.  So we won't hear your dogs or see your boogers.  You will be able to see my boogers and josiah's boogers.   And you will be able to hear all of our burps and farts and stuff. 

    Yesterday I was giving my mute button a bit of a workout - as somebody else was talking I found i needed to clear my throat a lot. 

    We use "zoom" which works ten times better than what you expect skype to do.  With skype, the damn thing starts making it's obnoxious noise as you are in the middle of something.  And when you are not using it, skype is screwing up all sorts of other stuff.  When you do use skype, i struggle to get it to do what i want.   When people want to contact me via skype, i have to look up my skype id.   With zoom, i email them a link.   They can take several minutes to pick up.  Way easier.   And I don't have to remember any weird ID.  And zoom appears to be free of bugs.  So, "zoom is 10 times better than what you expect of skype" and "skype is ten time buggier than what you expect of skype". 

    Zoom works great.  Skype sucks.
     
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    While it downloads i can read the reviews. Im using a smart phone if that matters on the "why". It took about 45 seconds for zoom to download

    Either way i am set up now. Looking forward to trying it out.
     
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    paul wheaton wrote:I just added this to the first post:

    For $1 you get:

    • Care and Feeding of a Rocket Mass Heater (30 minute video)
    • Early access to podcasts (one week lead time)
    • Early access to videos (one week lead time)
    • 11 podcast review of "Botany in a Day"
    • 10 podcast review of "Just Enough"
    • Podcasts 1-120 in convenient zip files
    • ability to make content suggestions



    I'm open to suggestions on how to manage my patreon page.  I am still quite new to it.



    The video is out there now.  The other stuff should be out there tomorrow.



    Paul, pardon me if I don't understand the Patreon, but, is there an option for one-time gives?  I am afraid that if I select the video patron, you might put out 1000 videos, and it will cost me 1,000 smackeroonies.  its not that i don't want to give you 1,000 smackeroonies, but i need to know what i'm giving, and when.

    Thanks for the help and I'd like to make sure I send some every year, in addition to the awesome purchase of the woodstove DVDs.
     
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    Set it up for $1 and then set it so that it is no more than $1 per month. 
     
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    paul wheaton wrote:Set it up for $1 and then set it so that it is no more than $1 per month. 



    thanks, i did that!  is there a place to donate to Peter and Donkey and Uncle Mud and Erica?  p.s. does anyone besides Erica and Ernie provide design and build services?
     
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    Peter Chan wrote:

    paul wheaton wrote:Set it up for $1 and then set it so that it is no more than $1 per month. 



    thanks, i did that!  is there a place to donate to Peter and Donkey and Uncle Mud and Erica?  p.s. does anyone besides Erica and Ernie provide design and build services?




    I am pretty sure that if they had patreon accounts, I would know.   In the meantime, buy their stuff.

     
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