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paul wheaton
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Ben Zumeta wrote: I honestly signed up for patreon in large part to give something back for what I have received from Permies and your other work.


Neat!

So, just stay the course?

 
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Tom Rutledge wrote: I love this guy : 
   ( https://www.patreon.com/user?u=2945881 ; )


I've seen a lot of those vids.   And his patreon page appears to have no rewards?

 
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Tom Rutledge wrote:Okay, some self identification time.  I'm part of the class A) type.   Paul has a documented and durable (ish) positive effect on the world.   I would like to reward and help that effect. 

If nothing else, the single train full of poison that the lawn care articles saved from going into the lawns of the world would be worth it.  


I feel like I stumbled onto the stuff about lawn care.   And then when I figured out what I was doing, I tried to direct more attention to the lawn care stuff.  And then I tried to create the pages for cast iron and DE with similar thoughts of reducing toxin use. 

I feel like I have about 20 more articles like those, but each day stuff happens and I cannot get to them.  BUT it does feel a lot like the patreon stuff is fixing that.
 
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As for the tie in to patreon, I feel I need to make sure the patreon folks get something more than the folks that don't support my patreon stuff. 


Maybe?  More likely, maybe not. 

If I give to my local NPR station, I'm not giving so that I get the content and other people don't get the content.  Maybe I get a t-shirt, but I really don't care about the t-shirt. I care about the news. Other people getting the news doesn't reduce the value of my getting the news.

The people who keep local symphonies going aren't contributing so they are the only ones who can hear the symphony.  Other people getting to hear the symphony doesn't make the symphony suck for me. I just want symphony. 

I'm going to make an educated guess that your patrons don't think that other people getting to listen to a podcast makes the podcast suck. They just want the podcast. 

I think you can quit worry about this and just set up a camera, point to a flower in the ground, start talking, and people will be happy. 
 
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K Putnam wrote:
As for the tie in to patreon, I feel I need to make sure the patreon folks get something more than the folks that don't support my patreon stuff. 


Maybe?  More likely, maybe not. 

If I give to my local NPR station, I'm not giving so that I get the content and other people don't get the content.  Maybe I get a t-shirt, but I really don't care about the t-shirt. I care about the news. Other people getting the news doesn't reduce the value of my getting the news.

The people who keep local symphonies going aren't contributing so they are the only ones who can hear the symphony.  Other people getting to hear the symphony doesn't make the symphony suck for me. I just want symphony. 

I'm going to make an educated guess that your patrons don't think that other people getting to listen to a podcast makes the podcast suck. They just want the podcast. 

I think you can quit worry about this and just set up a camera, point to a flower in the ground, start talking, and people will be happy. 


I confess that I am a broken person.  There are things where I fall very short, and the same programming makes it so there are some things I am (apparently) very good at.   So I perpetually hope that my upsides outweigh my downsides.

I understand that some people will throw coin into the pot because "hell, I tipped the pizza guy eight bucks for doing a job for which he is already paid.   I don't mind giving paul a buck for 500 hours of stuff I have consumed and like far more than what the pizza guy brought." 

I even understand that each person might have a different reason why they are putting money into this stuff. 

But I still need to give the patreon supporters something more than what the general public gets.  The world then makes sense to me. 

It's like kickstarter makes sense to me:  you put money in and you get stuff.   Some of the other crowdfunding things don't make sense to me:  somebody says "i would like some money please" and people give millions.   The end.   It happens all the time.  I think that there is some sort of secret language spoken there that I don't hear or read.  A secret code maybe. 

At the same time, if some super rich person came and said "I like your stuff.  I want to see you get more done.  Here is ten million dollars."  I can understand that.  I suppose I could understand that for others too, on a smaller scale.  At the same time, if somebody gives me ten million dollars, I am going to give them a personal tour and let them stay in my house and stuff. 



 
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As one broken person to another, I salute you! And I do understand.

Just keep it fun.  Obligation poisons creativity.

Keep an eye out for interesting topics or things to film and make finding super awesome things for patrons a game.
 
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Eric of GardenFork's patreon videos are for all his patreon supporters, no matter the level.  I think he tries to put one out monthly, and if he's smart, he has it come out around the time the patreon supporters get their monthly "here's what you spent" email.  (Just to remind people of the value they are getting/supporting.)

He will often mention things he was able to purchase, like a new camera or a new monitor, thanks to the support from patreon pledges, and say "Thank You!" 
 
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I like what you're doing Paul. You seem to be back up to a solid speed and consistency. I think maybe you lost a big chunk of folks when you went dark on the podcasts for a while. I know I lost track in that timeframe and am just getting back, what is it, a year later? It takes time to build that niche audience back up. I like what you're doing with my money and I think others will, with consistency.

These are all amazing ideas and implementation of any that work for you will improve your position.

In terms of spam, I just joke a bit as they send a Quite a few emails at the outset and it seems daily in how to improve your account. You know, the overflowing email anxiety and yelling, "why are you sending me crap", because you can't get to it all.

Thanks for  all the great work!
 
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I confess, I very, very rarely listen to podcasts. I have some of them-part of candy offered along with stuff I'm really interested in. However, I have all off a sudden had a brainwave (i'm a bit slow). When I read the dailyish email, my thought was "I'm going to set up a monthly $1 payment to patreon because I appreciate all the other stuff that Paul- and everyone else who contributes to this community-does. So feeling very proud of myself for such a novel thought duly followed the thread in order to post my intention hoping to inspire other dim witted, slow people to do the same. I was extremely humbled to scroll through the posts only to find that others (and I'm not calling them dim witted!)were already doing so and encouraging others to participate. So I can only add my small voice to the others and say" Come on, lets show our appreciation for whatever we get out of permies and complete the permie circle-Paul does more than the lion's share and we can all contribute to "care of the people", and $1/month is hardly "surplus". It just takes a bit of effort to set up-you can do it while waiting for your pizza to arrive.....

Thanks Paul, you are amazing and responsible for the start of my permaculture journey. Your site was the first to pop up when I started querying this "permaculture" that kept interfering when I was trying to find farming stuff.
 
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Podcast 373 ("do epic shit") has now been released to patreon peeps.
 
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This video was up for patreon peeps about two weeks ago and is now up for everybody!

Thanks patreon peeps for getting my youtube engine going again!

https://permies.com/t/64984/critters/Raising-Chickens-Homestead-Animals-video

We have seven more videos ready for upload, and eight more almost ready.   We also have a guy coming soon to do even more video editing!

I plan on getting a lot of this stuff up for patreon peeps before everybody else.   Thanks again!

 
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For the new chicken series, I put parts 2 though 8 up for just the patreon peeps.   I'll make them public over the next few weeks.  But for now ....  you can go put in a buck and see them..
 
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paul wheaton wrote:

  What are other folks doing?   Anybody have suggestions on what "reward" I should offer? 




A nomadic traveler guy I follow on youtube has a couple offerings I really dig. Patron only Maps and Photos.  https://www.patreon.com/FindingSimon

The maps are of places he has visited, hopes to visit, finds neat enough to put a pin on the map, etc.
The photos are of his daily travel and maybe more personal than what he would share on instagram/etc.
And a Real time updated map of his travels,

Things wheaton labs could offer:

I really enjoyed Jesse's videos; It was great to see the progress through the year and other goings on out on the lab.  Your recent posts of bringing in a full time videographer, I think, would be awesome for this.

A weekly lab update would be perfect for patreon (maybe sharing with youtube once in a while or delayed a month.)
Maybe more often than weekly if something fancy is going on.

-Ryan










 
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