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Trevor Walker wrote:What happens when you chop and drop a fully fruited bean plant?
Does it waste the nitrogen? Or do you get it back in the soil through green mulch?
My understanding is that the nodules fix nitrogen, most of which the fava uses for itself when it's putting on those big huge seed pods. So for max nitrogen you till it in right about when it's flowering. For max biomass you let it run it's course and eat as you like.
How about eating the beans and returning the pee to the soil?

Nick Kitchener wrote:If you harvest the bean at flowering then you naturally wont have any beans. I tried this last year with grains and it worked well.
Fava beans grow pretty big (you need to stake them otherwise they'll fall over and make your lodging problems even worse), and so just after flowering (the bees love them), I cut the plant off at ground level and removed the plant for composting.
With grains, if you introduce Nitrogen at the wrong time, you get too much green growth and not very good seed growth and so any Nitrogen additions should come early in the growing season.
What happened was that the beans didn't die like I expected. In fact it burst forth new growth and flowered again about a month later. It was too late in the season for them to develop beans good enough to eat, but it was good information.
It means that the fava bean self pruned its root system, releasing Nitrogen at the right time. It then continued to grow, accumulating more Nitrogen and storing it until after the grain was harvested. I then had a second Nitrogen harvest that went into the soil ready for the next growing season. It also provided a late bloom of flowers for the bees.
I'm going to do it again this year. The only thing to watch out for is wind blowing over the beans and damaging the grains.
Nick Kitchener wrote:
Fava beans grow pretty big (you need to stake them otherwise they'll fall over and make your lodging problems even worse),
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Michal Malinowski wrote:
Interesting. So you interplanted the beans with grain or grown grain after beans?
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