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Bret Alan
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was wondering how many of these stoves are still in use, and maybe if someone out there still heating with one maybe you could chime in!
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Miles Flansburg
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Howdy Brett, welcome to permies!

I have used a few different types of wood stoves in my life but cannot remember if any of them were blaze kings.

Do you have a specific question about them?
 
Pete Arthur
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That is the King Fireplace Furnace.
Was made in Walla Walla in the 80's or 90's,
one of the better non catalytic woodstoves to go into an existing fireplace.

The air inlet is on the right side and is thermostatically controlled, once you set it the stove self regulates output.
The long rod on the top right is the exhaust damper, open to start the stove,
but close it down when the chimney gets warm and starts to draw.

That looks to be in good shape, and if the fans work they are nice stoves.
 
Bret Alan
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Hello Miles and Pete sure do appreciate your time! I have been trying to get some info on this stove, basically is it safe and legal to use? I have came across some ideas that this stove may or may not be legal. And that a liner may or may not need to be used. So I guess any solid info to help iron out these concerns would be great. I bought the stove for 300. It had two door's one with glass, it came with a spare fan setup, extra bricks, and a little dust that we finally got cleaned up. looks better now that it is clean and installed. I notified my insurance agent beforehand that I was shopping for a wood stove, he told me to just let him know what make and model # I buy and I could go ahead and install it. I hope that I didn't waste my time and money on this stove. because now we are kind of excited about starting are first fire in it. And Pete I didn't know that about self regulation that is good to know.
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Pete Arthur
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From the blaze king website.
It is a good stove, it just doesn't have the EPA tag.

THE MANUAL YOU HAVE REQUESTED IS ASSOCIATED WITH A MODEL THAT IS NOT EPA APPROVED
AND IS ILLEGAL TO SELL, TRADE, BARTER, GIVE AWAY OR INSTALL IN MANY REGIONS OR STATES.

link to download the manual:

http://www.blazeking.com/EN/epawarn.php?pdf=KFF-403_PFF-403_BFF-403.pdf

My oppinions follow:
And it will leave gobs and gobs of creosote inside your flu, unless you are burning very dry wood.
They still make stainless steal adapters to connect that stove to an 8" stainless liner for the chimney.
1000 to 2000 bux of real shinney pipe to keep you house safe.
Or you can clean the chimney every half cord of burned wood, to keep the creosote at less than "scary chimney fire" levels.
 
Bret Alan
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Hey Pete you say they still make adapters for this stove to connect this to a liner, any ideas who I would go through to find one?
 
Pete Arthur
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Sorry:

Last time I looked, they still made adapters, but I can't find one now.
The generic adapter will not work on a blazeking, the generics are all square and about 100 bux.
New inserts will have the 6 or 7 or 8 inch round outlet to make installing easier.

The size of the fireplace opening determines what can be done from here.
You need lots of room in the fireplace and above the stove to get your hands in there to attach a liner.
P M me with the wheres whens and hows, we might work it out.
 
Bret Alan
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OK Pete I will get that info to you in the next day or so, until then are there many of these stoves still out there?
 
Pete Arthur
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Blaze King made them into the 90's but the EPA would not let them be sold on the west coast.
They were available in Idaho and Montana till about 99 or 2000.
If you are in the dryer area on the other side of the mountains, the stoves work great.
They did not fair so well on this, "the rainy side" of the hill.
Most folks around here cannot dry wood for a year and a half before use.
So the smelly nasty sticky catch your house on fire stuff, creosote, made lots of folk
use the kff for emergency use only. And then only clean the chimney once a year.
 
Scott Clements
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Brett, i have a FF-402 Blaze King insert, very similar, and I am looking for a door with glass. Would you be interested in selling the door with glass as I see you have the other door on the unit in your pictures.
 
Bret Alan
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Hey Scott, the pictures I have posted I did have the solid door on the stove mainly because I didn't want to break the glass during transport and install. as of now I am using the glass door, and I think I will hang on to both just in case a seal begins to leak I will have a back up. If I hear of one I'll be sure to pass it on though. you say your stove is a FF-402 What is the dimensions on the exhaust opening? and are you using a liner?
 
Scott Clements
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Stove look the same design as yours, in a weekend cabin we only use in the winter. Just bought it in the spring, pulled the unit and had the chimney cleaned and everything checked out. Looking to put a liner in if I can find a door with glass, otherwise looking to replace with a new unit with glass front/door.

Thanks for the fast reply, good luck with your installation, we have used ours several weekends now and it works great, lower 80's in the house and great burn time length. Main reason i would like to keep this unit is the large fire box size, can load it up and it burns all night.
 
Bret Alan
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I am still trying to find out if there is a liner adapter available for this stove, the dimensions for the exhaust are 20" X 3.5". Not even sure if one could be adapted to it. We have had some pretty cold nights already just below freezing and it burns great. As Pete Arthur mentioned it would be best to use dry wood (hey Pete the opening of fire place is 28"H X 34"W) I found a source of Ash which has been drying for two years (14.6% moisture) $35. a heaping truck load (Long Bed). not to bad considering it is split!
 
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