“More than 70% of researchers have tried and failed to reproduce another scientist's experiments, and more than half have failed to reproduce their own experiments.”
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For the many not for the few
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"Where will you drive your own picket stake? Where will you choose to make your stand? Give me a threshold, a specific point at which you will finally stop running, at which you will finally fight back." (Derrick Jensen)
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"Where will you drive your own picket stake? Where will you choose to make your stand? Give me a threshold, a specific point at which you will finally stop running, at which you will finally fight back." (Derrick Jensen)
Devin Lavign wrote:Neil I agree, as mentioned I think it is good for permaculture to advocate and add some scientific method.
However remember your audience too. Not everyone will be able to spend the extra time, effort, and money to set up multiple patches to separate and test different things to find out what is really causing things to work.
That while advocating scientific methods, we also shouldn't discourage personal experiences being reported. It is through sharing personal experiences of what does and doesn't work that folks who can devote themselves to more scientific methods can find ideas to test and report results.
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Bryant RedHawk wrote:
A true Scientist doesn't actually care what the answer is, they just want to know the answer.
"People may doubt what you say, but they will believe what you do."
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“The most important decision we make is whether we believe we live in a friendly or hostile universe.”― Albert Einstein
We really don't know how much we don't know.
Devin Lavign wrote:Just a quick thing on scientific reproducability. I saw an interesting quote from a scientist a while back, something to the extent of "there is no money or glory in being the 2nd person to discover something" thus summing up a big part of the problem for many of the sciences. Who is going to fund testing if something someone else discovered is reproducible if their scientist and their company wont profit or gain glory from it.
Rene Nijstad wrote:The farmer that does X because he knows that it works, because 'look for yourself' has in my view a much better understanding of what life is than the scientist who found a cure for Y but who has no clue how that cure might affect another thousand things that he never even thought of. The reason for that is that the farmer has the wisdom that he does not know why exactly it works, where the scientist has the mistaken belief based on his very limited methods that he does know.
Idle dreamer
Tyler Ludens wrote:
Rene Nijstad wrote:The farmer that does X because he knows that it works, because 'look for yourself' has in my view a much better understanding of what life is than the scientist who found a cure for Y but who has no clue how that cure might affect another thousand things that he never even thought of. The reason for that is that the farmer has the wisdom that he does not know why exactly it works, where the scientist has the mistaken belief based on his very limited methods that he does know.
It seems to me that the farmer's observations may be just as faulty as the scientist's, but because there is no peer review process of the farmer's observations and methods - he may continue with the same damaging practice decade after decade. I see this in my own region, in which the intuitive knowing and practice of the farmer and rancher has diminished the carrying capacity to one fifth of its historic level, and extirpated numerous species of animals and plants.
We've gotta get close enough to that helmet to pull the choke on it's engine and flood his mind! Or, we could just read this tiny ad:
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