I just dropped the price of
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for a wee bit.

 

 

uses include:
- infecting brains with permaculture
- convincing folks that you are not crazy
- gift giving obligations
- stocking stuffer
- gambling distraction
- an hour or two of reading
- find the needle
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Hi All -
I have a 100 acre "farm" in south central VA.  It's permaculture in total: food forests, swales, terraces and every other thing we can come up with.  Only 35 acres are under cultivation/homestead and the rest is either re-forested (destroyed in the 60s with haphazard timbering) or woods surrounding creek, springs & small forest river.  We're Certified Organic (for whatever that's worth these days) and Certified Biodynamic.  Our grow areas are broken into 2 major sections, the oldest surrounding our home and Wwoofer cottage and the other, about a 10 minutes stroll away, has another cottage, a terraced and swaled large hill (several acres), several ponds (one stocked and about 1/2 acre used for irrigation) and a future pastured area that swaled and planted with fruit and nut trees.  We're in the process of building a birthing barn (want to raise heritage pigs, sheep and chickens in the future) which will also house a kitchen and wood shop.  This 2nd area is the one I have a proposal for  I've explored too many options out there attempting to find one that fits what my hopes are for this upper area so I'm winging this one, but it seems to make sense.  I am hoping to partner with a couple or a couple people that have working knowledge of growing edibles, building soil (I've been working on it, but it's got a way to go) has a burning desire to be a grower/farmer, is hard working and capable of inspiring themselves. 

I am stretched too thin and want to basically turn this area over to a responsible person beginning this spring.  There is a 2 bedroom, greywater furnished cottage, an existing medicinal/kitchen garden and nothing by land in need of care.  There are literally a couple acres that could be used for a market garden type of set up.  Obviously, with my farm's certifications, I will be involved, but want to leave the bulk of the rest to someone (s) to tend, plant, build soil etc.  I will furnish the home, land, my insight as well as assist in marketing whatever is grown under my label (and of course certifications).  Whatever you glean from your production will be your $$ in exchange for working and maintaining this section of the farm.  I'm going to keep the ins and outs simple: I am in need of someone to help and I'll house you, provide dinner for you (we all eat dinner, round table style on the farm) give you the use of more than enough land to make a little money from a market garden, in exchange for continued development of this section of the farm.  All in there's just over 5 acres. 

Please check out our website and FB page:  www.cricketscove.net and FB: Crickets Cove Farm and Forge.  Applications are under the "Getting your hands dirty with us" tab
Thanks and obviously I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts on this.
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We're having the same problem. We have a fabulous farm and museum, with a large income, and we've been unsuccessfully trying to find a partner(s) for years now. Just like you, we offer so much but it seems anybody suitable for someday running and even owning this place is dreadful hard to find. Seems most folks with any real gumption already have their own place. ...but, still, there must be someone out there. A couple things you could try is posting to more social media, especially www.ic.org. It's a shadow of what it once was. Fewer people are looking these days. Or you could try www.wwoofusa.org. But they too have many, many farms looking for help/apprentices/members/partners. It's kinda funny how a person wanting to wwoof posts a note there and usually within hours they get many offers and replies. It's almost like a pack of real wolves pouncing on a lamb. Seems the best thing you could do is move your whole farm to Oregon/California. There are many more people looking there than on this side of the Mississippi.

One thing I noticed in your situation is that on your previous year old thread, you stated "no children or pets". We have found that many of the folks looking have both. You may be severely limiting the available pool of talent if you still have that bar. You might want to rethink that.

Jim&Laura
www.stonegardenfarm.com
www.ohiofarmmuseum.com 

P.S. You might want to change the title of this thread. What you have doesn't exactly "call" to the willing.  
 
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Thanks Jim & Laura -
Since this location is far from the main homestead, I wouldn't have an issue with pets and possibly kids.  ya think the title reflects a 4 a.m. post - I will address it.  Wwoof people spent Monday on our farm and they are most aware of the challenges at this point with Wwoofers & Farmers.  I haven't brought anyone on from Wwoof in years since we have a 6 month minimum and most are simply traveling from point A to point B with a week or 2 only for stopping points.  Good luck to us both - I know there MUST be people out there.....somewhere and with the current climate on the west coast, maybe the new matra will be GO EAST Young Man.  hahaha
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Marianne,

This is a very reasonable offer. It is sad to read the response that you are not offering enough. It pains me to see the current situation with young people enslaved by debt, I think that is a major source of the problem. Many of them are miserable of course but few have started the road to recovery, which includes a fearless moral inventory. It is easier to be mad at someone else than humbled by our own shortcomings.

I try to counsel the kids around me to avoid debt like the plague, unless you are getting something that you actually need and will pay for itself in a reasonable time frame. I respect you for offering knowledge and experience for free.  

The only recommendation I can make is that it may be beneficial to spell out more specifically how this interaction might blossom. If you have that size property, deeding over 5 acres after a time might be a reasonable incentive, as Paul Wheaton is doing. Many of the potential applicants need hope there is a way to independence, in which you may be able to play a role.
 
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Thanks TJ!  I feel strongly that should anyone join us on the farm, that they leave better prepared for their future.  We've had interns stay here for over 2 years and today 1 of my all time favorites is heading out.  He's taking with him a business plan, marketing ideas, a farm name and appropriate marketing stuff, a list of contacts for where he is headed, some land to lease to start as well as plenty of "seeds" to get rocking.  I think that's only fair not to mention the "next generation" of growers is in desperate need of more earth friendly folks.
I can't disagree with the "land for the future" but will let time and individuals guide that path for us.  I am not wanting an intentional community here, but that is something I may certainly be open to, later.
 
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Hi Marianne. In a nutshell, I'm looking to relocate and am interested in what you are offering. I was raised on a working farm in Person Co. NC so I have plenty of experience. Right now, I'm helping an elderly couple maintain their property, house, ect. I am single but with a very well behaved canine companion. If you would like to start a dialog that would be great. Thanks.
 
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Hi Marianne

I'm an empty nester, activist and farmer wanna be. I've great energy  and a good leader as far as teaching and yoga goes. but I've no professional experience in working land

Is there room for someone to learn who has a deep interest in this? Ive worked 2 summers at my dear friends yoga retreat in main but it was mostly attending to guests, teaching and outdoors

I do have a great desire to build cob- considering seriously the boots program at Paul's place but wondered if I could get as much hands on with you all?

I live in Tennessee and travel often to Christiansburg and area. What else? I'm a yogi and very disciplined. My son, 11 is at UT. I do have a dog who stays with him, may want to bring him if this is a fit?

My Facebook is Ajeetyogaandhealingarts

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