• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Carla Burke
  • Nancy Reading
  • John F Dean
  • r ranson
  • Jay Angler
  • paul wheaton
stewards:
  • Pearl Sutton
  • Leigh Tate
  • Devaka Cooray
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Matt McSpadden
  • Jeremy VanGelder

Buy a Batch Box Rocket

 
Posts: 24
Location: Providence, United States
2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi,

I live in Maine.  I want a BBR.  I can't build worth a darn.  Who is selling an 8" BBR? I want this in my basement:

http://batchrocket.eu/images/rockets/P3040160a.jpg

Please help.

Jeff D.
 
gardener
Posts: 3471
Location: Southern alps, on the French side of the french /italian border 5000ft elevation
194
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Jeffreyif you want the same, you will have to talk to Peter van Den Berg.
 
gardener
Posts: 1059
Location: +52° 1' 47.40", +4° 22' 57.80"
450
woodworking rocket stoves wood heat
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Jeffrey, I'm sorry to say but the red bell heater will remain the only one of its kind. That is, in the near future anyway.

It's specifically built to my specifications and the producer of the parts doesn't have any plans to build more of those although he's allowed to do so. The combustion core and door assembly are made by myself as is the overall design. By the way, it isn't an 8"  but a 6" version instead.

Why would you place such a nice heater in your basement?
 
Jeffrey Dustin
Posts: 24
Location: Providence, United States
2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Thank you, my friends.

I live in an old and small house.  My workshop is in the basement where I woodwork.  Our floors are made of fake wood.  A heavy BBR would probably fall through the floor. I am open to any BBR style, not just the beautiful red bell.

I went to the Batchrocket.eu site but I'm afraid the instructions are too complicated for me and my wife thinks I will burn down the house.

Is there a super simple design that doesn't require maths and advanced degree to build? BBR for dummies?

Jeff D.



 
Satamax Antone
gardener
Posts: 3471
Location: Southern alps, on the French side of the french /italian border 5000ft elevation
194
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
May be a step by step progress could help you.

http://donkey32.proboards.com/thread/1817/starting-build-220mm-rocket-double

This is my workshop heater.
 
Jeffrey Dustin
Posts: 24
Location: Providence, United States
2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Is there a brick calculator? How do figure how many bricks i need for an octagon riser 8"?

I know how to get the dimensions of the core from the spreadsheet.

Do you have recommendations on suppliers? Should I use a ceramic tube as a riser? How do i figure the number of bricks I need for the outer skin (the mass) of the bell?

So many questions!
Jeff D

 
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
What is the material that the first batch of the OP is being made of ? Is it cement slabs ?Refractory material?
 
Satamax Antone
gardener
Posts: 3471
Location: Southern alps, on the French side of the french /italian border 5000ft elevation
194
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Panagiotis Panagiotou wrote:What is the material that the first batch of the OP is being made of ? Is it cement slabs ?Refractory material?




http://batchrocket.eu/en/applications#redbell

 
Satamax Antone
gardener
Posts: 3471
Location: Southern alps, on the French side of the french /italian border 5000ft elevation
194
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Jeffrey Dustin wrote:Is there a brick calculator? How do figure how many bricks i need for an octagon riser 8"?

I know how to get the dimensions of the core from the spreadsheet.

Do you have recommendations on suppliers? Should I use a ceramic tube as a riser? How do i figure the number of bricks I need for the outer skin (the mass) of the bell?

So many questions!
Jeff D



Jeff, best bet, imho. Is to learn to use sketchup, with "objects" then you can make one brick, and multiply it numerous times, move them about etc. To make your plan. For the riser, use insulating firebricks. Or cast fireproof mortar. Or else, the more modern ceramic fiber heat risers.

https://permies.com/t/53413/Inexpensive-vacuum-formed-ceramic-fiber
 
Posts: 55
Location: Shenandoah Valley
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Does anyone sell a door for an 8" batch rocket with a window in it?

I don't know how to weld, and don't have equipment.

I'm thinking of hiring someone, but it would be easier just to buy a door and a p-trap, I think.
 
Posts: 211
22
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Adam Jonathan wrote:Does anyone sell a door for an 8" batch rocket with a window in it?

I don't know how to weld, and don't have equipment.

I'm thinking of hiring someone, but it would be easier just to buy a door and a p-trap, I think.


Keep an eye out on Craigslist for an older Vogelzang Frontiersman wood stove. They were an inexpensive plate steel wood stove with a cast iron door and usually had a window. I’ve found three of them now, two for $45 and one for $150.

They’re not hard to modify and use as a frame around a batch box rocket core. I’ve used one for an 8” masonry rocket build and I’m sketching plans using one for a 6” build.
C011C1D2-53B4-4885-A17A-90DB6BC922DB.jpeg
[Thumbnail for C011C1D2-53B4-4885-A17A-90DB6BC922DB.jpeg]
AE2F515F-AC04-4C3A-95AE-999360BFD766.jpeg
[Thumbnail for AE2F515F-AC04-4C3A-95AE-999360BFD766.jpeg]
 
pollinator
Posts: 132
9
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Over here in the UK I've used a modified Charnwood stove as a frame for my BB firebox and have kept the door (with glass window). The controllability and fire view is excellent.
 
                              
Posts: 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hello, could somebody clarify please, it is obvious that Jeffrey is seeking for a pointer for an address or pointer of somebody that sell or does this as trade. The fact that nobody replied on that line, means that itisagainst the forum policy?? Thank you
 
gardener
Posts: 1239
Location: Proebstel, Washington, USDA Zone 6B
715
2
wheelbarrows and trailers kids trees earthworks woodworking
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Since this thread was started a number of people have built batch box rockets and are available to either help or for hire. We have a list of RMH builders now.
 
Who among you feels worthy enough to be my best friend? Test 1 is to read this tiny ad:
100th Issue of Permaculture Magazine - now FREE for a while
https://permies.com/goodies/45/pmag
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic