Elfriede B wrote:
oh boy, I hate stirring up trouble
I was so thrilled to read this. Thank you for describing how you do it Elfriede B... And always has been done.... I now understand. Pernickity is great in places like this.... we learned something! It can be bugging for others to take your language and misuse it but I think Paul got it straight from Sepp. He does his own thing!... and sure teaches in his doing. Maybe there should be a new name that says... "above ground hugelkultur"? What would that be in German? You could help us coin a more accurate name.....
Elfriede B wrote:
The kultur part is the practice of growing food on a 'Huegelbeet'. That is the name of the finished plant site. Beet simply means a garden bed and is best pronounced the same way. . It is an old concept. As you know Germans tend to be very pernickety and from what I gather from your pictures, though it will work great, the average Huegelbeet builder in Germany will have conniptions. First you strip off the sod and carefully put it aside. then you dig out the area that is to be your future Huegelbeet. Put the biggest wood on the bottom, smaller stuff on the top, cover it all with chips if you have them, then some old straw or hay or leaves,, put back the sod, but upside down, then cover with soil and it is ready. It settles and from year to year looses height.
Cyara wrote: Maybe there should be a new name that says... "above ground hugelkultur"? What would that be in German?
Are tall 5-8ft shrubs such as buffaloberry or goumi plantable on hugel kultur?
Oak logs suitable for hugelkultur? I'm aware of tannins, that's why i'm asking...
Brenda Groth wrote:
thought I'd maybe plant peas or beans on top the first season..as they don't need the nitrogen that might be stolen by the rotting bark..? not really sure..no hurry as our planting season is a ways off (except for peas).
Almost forgot... i'm thinking how could one make teraces with hugelkultur. Some big rocks/stones on a hillside which could hold logs at place. Then just fill the front space with branches, small logs, soil, leaves... Not a big ass terace but it's something... i see it in nature all the time...
rose macaskie wrote:
philip freddolino your description of a hugglekulture bed is a bit more complete than the ones first talked of, or at least is the second one i have read that talks of putting in layers of goodies, logs and then smaller type wood goodies, twigs of pine and and deciduous trees and then wood chips , and the first that i have read that talks of a long maturing process and putting on plenty of soil for veggies.
How big does your bed get. I would have problem having enough compost to put on top. I have a problem getting my head round digging down enough to have a lot of soil to put on top or digging the bits in between beds low enough to have lots of earth to throw on top. I have to fight with myself to change the lie of the land a lot or to see how to do it. I also have a fight to persuade myself to do that much work. May be if you digg a deep corridor between beds you also need to calculate for digging a wider one than i imagine or a least wide while you are digging to help you dig down.
You say the soil in them is acid because of a lot of fungal activity. You could grow blueberries on a huglekulture bed then, though your soil was not acidic or rhododendrons.
I have planted a blueberry where i put pine chips under my magnolia, I thought magnolias liked acid soil, though maybe this sort doesn't need them. The blueberry is doing very well and my other one, planted years ago where there aren't any pine chips, is not, so bits of pine bark work to acid up the soil for blue berries, though now we have put a drip on the blueberry and as the water is full of chalk the blueberry will probably suffer. I shall have to collect rain water for blueberries as rain water has no chalk in it. rose.
Hi Rose, I don't actually dig holes or trenches to build the beds. I build the beds on the side of slopes. The logs etc. are laid parallel to the slope in order create to a terrice that captures water runoff.