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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Gardening.

Ruth Stout heavily mulched her gardens.  Instead of putting scraps in a compost pile, tuck them in/under/on your mulch to directly feed the soil.  Mother Earth News story about Ruth's methods

To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - Start with two areas that have already been mulched (or mulch two places)
  - Collect two 5 gallon buckets of kitchen scraps
  - open a spot in the mulch for the kitchen scraps
  - plop one bucket of kitchen scraps in a spot so that the material will not touch desirable plants
  - cover the kitchen scraps with existing mulch or new mulch
  - repeat in another spot for second bucket

To document your completion of the BB, provide the following:
  - a photo of the bucket of kitchen scraps next to the opened mulch
  - a photo of the empty bucket and the new mound of mulch
  - repeat for second bucket



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the kitchen scraps about to go into the hole
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opening up the existing mulch a bit
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introducing the kitchen scraps to the new hole in the mulch
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the kitchen scraps are in their new home
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cover with exisiting mulch
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add a bit more new mulch
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10 gallons of kitchen scraps  is a lot to accumulate at 1 time (couple, no kids) without it souring.  Any considerations to lower that?  I would have to freeze it.
 
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I leave mine in a bucket with holes outside to accumulate. In the summer black soldier flies break it down before I can fill it.
 
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I've been taking pictures as I add mine to my garden in smaller batches. When I think I've done about 10 gallons, I'll post all the pictures. I'm hoping that will qualify!

Basically, I take a picture of the full containers next to the hole I made in the mulch, then the food in the hole, and then the covered hole.
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Staff note (paul wheaton):

that looks like about 3.5 gallons so far. Keep going!

 
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I hope so  nicole. I am good for 2 gallons at a time. Reading the instructions, it wants 10 gallons as a starting point, not 10 gallons over a period of time. In a community like Wheaton labs, the qty is probably easy. The instruction qty may be intentional or a mistake. Just pointing it out in case it was a mistake. Filling the balance with grass cuttings does not constitute "kitchen scraps" which could have been a loophole.

I started a bed of morel mushrooms and instructions say to bury kitchen scraps in the bed to feed them. They grow in soil  vs logs or mulch like other mushrooms. Someone can get an added benefit with this method. And the worms, they love this. Good stuff.
 
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 Reading the instructions, it wants 10 gallons as a starting point, not 10 gallons over a period of time. In a community like Wheaton labs, the qty is probably easy. The instruction qty may be intentional or a mistake.



In the first image of the post with the instructions, the bucket looks like a two gallon one and not clear full so maybe the '10 gallon' amount is an error as mentioned?
 
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Paul's the official decider so we'll see what he says and if he adjusts the official requirements to be more specific.  My guess is that it would be fine to compost the materials as you get them and document as you go like Nicole is.
 
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I think this lives at the intersection of “Lazy” and and “Luxurious” where you:
DO manage your kitchen scraps in a timely manner, feed the soil/plants, and save time because you...
DON’T have to manage a compost pile/bin, or have scraps accumulated in the kitchen getting stinky, or haul and spread finished compost.

I think there’s some value in the smaller amounts, that in total make 10 gallons, creating habitual behaviors...

There’s also probably a scale ranging from the ineffectiveness of a single apple core to the overwhelming of one spot with more than five gallons of scraps at once.

 
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Take the pics so it adds up to 10 gallons.  Definitely don't keep week old compost in your house - that's nasty!
 
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I'd continued documenting since this post....and then it snowed. So I started filling a 5 gallon bucket in our garage, to keep it cool. I figured the snow would melt and I'd be able to dig it in soon. BUT NO! The snow still hasn't melted, and my bucket was full and there was nowhere for the new compost to go! So I used a snow shovel to get down to the mulch, then dug the mulch out and put some of it in a pot. Then filled the hole with the 5 gallons of compost. Put the mulch on top of it, and then covered it with snow to help keep away winter-hungry creatures...and to make the garden bed a bit prettier.
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Set #5
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Set #6
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(My daughter wanted to "help," since this is her future garden bed :D)
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Set #7!
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And covered back up with snow, for good measure!
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Covered all up
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Staff note (paul wheaton):

I certify that this BB is complete!

 
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