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Suggestions for trellised heat loving annual vines to shade N/W facing windows?

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These windows get blasting sun all afternoon all summer.

We plan to do a more permanent pergola and something perenniel eventually but in the meantime we're looking at fast growing annuals to grow up a crisscrossed bamboo trellis...preferably with lots of bloom for bees, butterflies and hummingbirds

Thanks for any ideas!

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Anne Miller

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This thread might offer some suggestions:

https://permies.com/t/171213/favorite-vines

I am looking forward to hearing other suggestions from folks.

I like bougainvillea because it has such pretty flowers.

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Thank you Anne!
That thread has some good suggestions...luffa might work and I already have some seed.
Many things I've thought about wouldn't be able to take the mid day heat and sun.
I might look at gourds also.

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Hops or pole beans may be an option...

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When we lived on our homestead which was near Dallas, Texas I grew luffas and birdhouse gourds on a barbed wire fence in full sun. Both plants did well.

In the Piney Woods of East Texas, we grew spaghetti squash in mostly full sun. I wonder if the fruit might be too heavy?

I love acorn squash and have read that it does well growing vertically.

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Mike Haasl wrote:Hops or pole beans may be an option...

We had hops across the southeast side of the house for a few years that were really lush and then slowly died out...not sure why?
We've come to depend on passion flower vine for shade as it is maintenance free other than cutting back shoots where we don't want them but not ready for something tthat permanent on this side of the house.

Beans are a good thought...will check into varieties.

Thanks!

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I use Passion Flower as porch shade, but you said annual. And this is very much a perennial you will likely never get rid of.

I grew Firecracker Vine (Ipomoea lobata) up the driveway power pole last year and WOW. The pollinators loved it. It grew absolutely huge (maybe too big.) And it thrived in a relatively harsh location.

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Matt Todd wrote:I use Passion Flower as porch shade, but you said annual. And this is very much a perennial you will likely never get rid of.

I grew Firecracker Vine (Ipomoea lobata) up the driveway power pole last year and WOW. The pollinators loved it. It grew absolutely huge (maybe too big.) And it thrived in a relatively harsh location.

I'll check out the firecracker vine! It sounds like a possibility...thanks!

And we too love and use p.flower vine as I mentioned in an above post copied below

It will likely be used once we are ready for a more permanent planting.

We've come to depend on passion flower vine for shade as it is maintenance free other than cutting back shoots where we don't want them but not ready for something that permanent on this side of the house.

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Here's a picture of the trellis....we use this method in the gardens a lot as a solid free standing structure...in this case we've attached to the fascia for a little more solidity.

We love this cane! There is an abandoned lot walking distance to us where anyone who likes can harvest, some by the trailer load although we just cut and drag armloads to our gardens.
We are fairly certain it is the giant cane as some is almost two inches and aproaching 20 feet.

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I was never able to grow anything viney.that was really happy in this location.
It faces north/west and the house shades the area until one in the afternoon...then it is blasted by afternoon summer sun until the sun goes down...6-7 hours of super hot. Just the opposite of what I try for in other locations on our property.

What I do notice is that the grasses are lush and green even in our recent severe drought because of the roof run off and less sun.

So, now I'm thinking we need shrubs that reach maybe 10-12 feet tall to shade the windows. Fast growing ones that have full leafy foliage and lose their leaves in winter. Maybe they even have an interesting trunk and branch structure?

Flowers for pollinators would be a plus as would some fall color.

I could get a few shrubs for free by digging like crepe myrtle, rose of sharon and lilac. And spirea.

I'm starting to appreciate crepe myrtle's tenatiousness...fast growth, flowers and can be pruned to have shapely trunks. Many are being winter killed here lately so they start all over as a bush but maybe this spot would offer some winter protection.

Any other shrub suggestions for afternoon summer sun?

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Following, because I have the same problem with the west and east walls of the house. The east side is challenging because it's on a slope so the windows needing shading at high up. The west side is challenging because it just get so danged hot!

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