• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Carla Burke
  • Nancy Reading
  • paul wheaton
  • John F Dean
  • r ransom
  • Jay Angler
stewards:
  • Timothy Norton
  • Tereza Okava
  • Pearl Sutton
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • M Ljin
gardeners:
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Megan Palmer
  • Thekla McDaniels

how would you remove oil from alcohol extracts?

 
gardener
Posts: 1866
Location: the mountains of katuah, southern appalachia
621
forest garden trees foraging chicken food preservation wood heat
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
i make a number of alcohol-based extracts for baking, etc, out of various local products of farm and forest. among them are hazelnut and black walnut extracts, which always seem to end up with a bit of oil floating in them after straining out the solid bits they’re made from (probably not surprising when working with ingredients with high oil content). i want to remove the oil and lose the least amount of the alcohol/water extract that the oil is floating in. how would you do it?
 
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 16315
Location: SW Missouri
12761
2
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 10
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Chill it and skim it.
 
master gardener
Posts: 6713
Location: Carlton County, Minnesota, USA: 3b; Dfb; sandy loam; in the woods
4141
8
forest garden trees books chicken food preservation cooking fiber arts seed woodworking homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
What's your volume? And how much labor is it worth? And how much waste can you bear?

If I had a single small extract bottle with some oil, I'd start by trying to draw it into scraps of paper-towel by dipping corners into the oil-beads.

If I had a lot, I'd put it in something like a graduated cylinder and decant the stuff off the top.

Another approach, depending on the particulars, would be to siphon the good stuff out from under the oily surface, breaking the siphon before the oil got too close to the hose.

(Duh...or chill and skim it, that sounds better than my ideas.)
 
gardener
Posts: 3513
Location: Cascades of Oregon
976
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I am wondering how much of the flavor is in the oil? Evaporation of the alcohol would leave all the flavor in the oil? I pulled this out of an article:


If your extraction and evaporation are done correctly, the final oil will retain most of the flavor that alcohol could dissolve, with only minor losses to evaporation or incomplete extraction. The exact percentage depends on the plant material, solvent strength, and processing method, but in good practice, well over half of the extractable flavor is usually left in the oil
 
Pearl Sutton
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 16315
Location: SW Missouri
12761
2
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Having taken Black Walnut extract, I'd say it would be better if it lacked some flavor. Good medicinal, but hard to choke down.
 
Posts: 74
Location: 10a
32
dog cooking woodworking
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Coffee Filter.  Works great with even 'heavy oils' (ie: hot bacon grease to get the little crispies out)  May 'take awhile', but.. Ehh.. Read a Book / Soak some Vitamin Sunshine.

.02
 
greg mosser
gardener
Posts: 1866
Location: the mountains of katuah, southern appalachia
621
forest garden trees foraging chicken food preservation wood heat
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
there is definitely some flavor in the oil - with another of my hats on, i press pretty amazing edible oil from black walnut kernels. but this is really a fairly tiny amount - like a curl of little bubbles that goes halfway around the top of the liquid in a full-ish quart or half-gallon mason jar, and only along the edge. tiny bits.

the walnut is just a flavor extract of good ripe kernels (and sometimes the presscake from pressing the them), nothing like the medicinal extract, more pleasant by multiple orders of degrees. for use like vanilla extract.

sounds like i’ll be trying to chill & skim.
 
gardener
Posts: 726
Location: Grow zone 10b. Southern California,close to the Mexican border
611
5
home care duck books urban chicken food preservation cooking medical herbs solar homestead greening the desert
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I make a lot of extracts, and I find, that using a broth and fat separator, works the best. A separator, is a small pitcher, with a hole in the bottom, you can open and close by squeezing the handle.
You simply pour your extract and oil into the separator. Wait until all of the oil is on the top. Then I drain out the alcohol extras, through the bottom of the separator pitcher. Since the oil flows on top, you eventually end up with only oil in the pitcher.
Is some slips through, I just run it through again.
 
grapes are vegan food pellets. Eat this tiny ad:
change the world (for the better) with hands on permaculture
https://wheaton-labs.com/bootcamp
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic