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Does anyone have any fruit tree seeds I can buy or trade for or know where I can order some?  I don't have much to trade yet. I could probably find MO natives if the season isn't too far past.  I will have native hazelnuts. I can probably get native pecan, persimmon,and walnut this fall. I have musk strawberry plants but not sure how to ship them. Maybe a few Winecrisp apple seeds.

I'm looking for Montmorency Cherry or something similar. I didn't harvest mine this year because they were wormy for the first time ever. I lost a main branch on the tree and it's very off balance. Don't think it'll live long, but I'll try to take care of it. I haven't decided on radicle pruning or a 4x4 post.

I'd also like to try peaches with some good quality like late blooming or disease resistant. I have some Red Haven, but I've heard they don't usually germinate.

Damson or other European plums would be great too.
 
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I'm also looking for peach seeds that would be adapted to cold winters and dry climates (with irrigation, but very dry winds). My shipping address is in US.

Thanks!
 
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Hi, Ken

If you are still interested in cherry, in a few weeks I will have seeds of Malpighia Glabra (Acerola)
 
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Thanks Carol! Unfortunately, I'm too far north to even try those. They sound interesting though.
 
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Salutations, Ken!

I have some damson plum growing in our yard (I have no idea what the tree is, only that it is most likely damson), and it has just begun to drop the fruits. It's quite sweet, and of course quite hardy, since I live in Finland. I could collect those very easily. And for cherries, well I live near a botanical garden that has many varieties of cherries growing. Now I'm not sure if there are any tart cherries left, but there is most likely lots of seed on the ground, since people have beem eating them while passing the trees. Those I could also collect.

I am in return VERY interested in all your walnuts, pecan and persimmon. Hazelnuts I have also, in case you want to exchange them for some genetical variety.

Since I'm a newbie, I don't know yet if the seeds should be first dried, or kept moist all times, but that info might be readily availale in the interwebs .

Best regards,
Janne
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Hi Janne. I've found peach and cherry locally, but your plum sounds interesting. I thought Damsons were always sour?

I'm afraid shipping seeds internationally probably has all kinds of regulations.  I'm not sure if it can be done legally. Maybe someone on here can tell us?

I think the walnuts failed to produce this year. We had whole trees stripped by fall web worms last year.  I haven't been around any persimmons or pecans. I'll look around.
 
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Ken,
here are some pictures that I hastily took. They sure look like damsons. But they could also be small plums . About the sourness...I find them rather sweet, with maybe a bitterish aftertaste. Then again to my taste a cherry is sour, a lemon is sour, but never a plum!
The fruits are now all over our yard and everybody is trying their hardest not to step on them. Accidents do happen .

-Janne
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I have no idea what the tree is, only that it is most likely damson
I have no idea what the tree is, only that it is most likely damson
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Rebecca Norman wrote:I'm also looking for peach seeds that would be adapted to cold winters and dry climates (with irrigation, but very dry winds). My shipping address is in US.

Thanks!



If you want a Peach with those specific characteristics, is better to buy a graft cultivars.....with seeds you'll never know what you will have.
 
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Nice plums!
 
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Thanks Ken! Do you want some seeds?
Does anyone? They are quite sweet, and all the other plums/damsons in our yard are not so much. Then again, they might be cross pollinated, so you might end up with anything, but isn't that the fun of it ?
I have also thought about sending and receiving scion wood..I wonder would they survive the travel.
 
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Hi Janne. They look great! I would like some seeds. I don't have anything to trade yet though. It's too earlier for persimmons or nuts.
 
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Ken, it's not a problem, you trade when possible and if there is anything to trade. I'm just happy to jump in to this seed trading stuff!
I'll probably scrub some pits clean and put them into moist vermiculite, pack and ship them on monday-tuesday. I hope that will suffice and not get them moldy.
Would you like to trade shipping info on private mess---ahem--MOOSEAGES or e-mail?

-Janne
 
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My thanks!  Janne! I'll send my address.

I think it's better to let them dry on a paper towel for a week. I Think any moisture on the outside will cause mold.
 
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Janne, have you been to the Grimo Nut Tree Nursery web site? They have some extremely cold hardy varieties.
 
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I have green gauge plums that come mostly true from seed. These get extremely sweet when allowed to get completely ripe.  Although the winters here are mild I think it is winter hardy.
I have had good success with peach pits that sprouted from my compost.  They were in my wicking barrels so I let them grow there for two years then planted them out. They started to get peach leaf curl which is a problem here. I had the opportunity to cover them and that stopped the leaf curl.  one of them turned out to be a nectarine. It produced so heavy that it broke its branches. It is sweeter than the peaches and free stone..
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Thanks Hans, but I already have a Green Gage. I cant seem to get any plums because of brown rot and codling moths.  I've only had a couple that were edible in 4-5 years.
 
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I cant seem to get any plums because of brown rot and codling moths.


I can sympathise. My harvests have continually improved with a couple of simple things to balance the system. One is alight trap to collect the moths at night. a source of chicken feed. gather up all fallen fruit. another source of chicken food. Create habitat for paper wasps.  Not yellow jackets or other wasps that have enclosed nests because they love sweet thing just as much as meat. The paper wasp has a longer segment between the thorax and abdomen and longer back legs. They make an open nest of paper cells on a stalk. They are not aggressive like wasps and hornets that enclose their nest. They carefully patrol my trees and vines for eggs and larva before they can enter the fruit or when they emerge. Because their nests are open they are built in sheltered locations like under the eaves of buildings and in greenhouses and hoop houses.  Because their nests are open they are very observant.  They will recognise you as a regular part of their environment that is not threatening. When You see them standing on the nest talk to them. They seem to like to be acknowledged. Occasionally they have built nests in movable objects where it is not convenient and they have allowed me to move it new location without stinging me.
My mother gren gauge is 30 feet  tall and the moths don't seem to get up that high and the seedlings I am pruning to stay within the hoop houses as an overstory for my raspberries so they get the benefit ot the traps and paper wasps and can be harvested for market.
Do you want me to save you some of the nectarine seeds?
 
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Cherry trees here in Los Angeles are highly valued
 
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I would like a few nectarines seeds. Thanks! I'll send you my address.

Do you have plans for the light trap?
 
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Hans, I don't think the PM went through. I'll try again tomorrow
 
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The traps are commercial The latest one was new but donated unused at Goodwill so I did not have to pay much. If you have the ingredients left over from old computers you could build one.  It is a window screen cup  under a cooling fan with LED lights above the fan.  When the insects are attracted to the light they get sucked in by the fan and die in the screan cup because they cant get out.

You cam mail directly if you translate the bottom of my signature line.
 
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Hans, I sent you a Facebook message. Thanks!
 
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Hans, are you getting PMs from anyone? My messages to Janne go right through. I've tried to send to you about 5 times.
 
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hi all - in case anyone is still looking at this old post...

i have some sweet cherry volunteers that can trade.  i can only guess at the parentage (maybe schmidt's bigarreau).  but they are very tasty, certainly small, and incredibly vigorous & disease resistant.  while all of our grafted cherry trees have tons of brown rot, these cherries stay on the branch until i get a chance to pick or it simply shrivels up from boredom.
 
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Janne Lassila wrote:

I have some damson plum growing in our yard (I have no idea what the tree is, only that it is most likely damson), and it has just begun to drop the fruits. It's quite sweet, and of course quite hardy, since I live in Finland. I could collect those very easily. And for cherries,  Those I could also collect.
Hazelnuts I have also, in case you want to exchange them for some genetical variety.



Hi Janne, just came across this post and would love to trade some damson plums, cherry and possibly hazelnuts if you have?
I recently bought a tiny plot of land in Portugal and am attempting to populate it with edible nuts and fruits to boost the soil quality/shade cover as I begin planting a small food forest.
Its fairly barren at the moment, although the land came with a couple of spindly pomegranate, olive and fig, I'm awaiting this fall to see what the harvest offers! So may have pomegranate seeds available??

I do however have some delicious Greegage Plums available (or will have in about a month when I can pick them) They are growing very happily in my UK garden, are the true 'green' version and taste delightful! Very sweet!

Please let me know if interested,
Kind Regards, Shari

 
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Carol Var wrote: If you are still interested in cherry, in a few weeks I will have seeds of Malpighia Glabra (Acerola)



Hi Carol, if these are still possible I would be interested in some? I have some delicious Greegage Plums (seeds) available or will have in about a month or so at harvest (growing in UK), if you are interested in trading? They are small and VERY sweet! I have the Reine Claude Verte variety.

This is what Wiki says..
The greengages are a group of cultivars of the common European plum. The first true greengage came from a green-fruited wild plum (Persian: گوجه‌ سبز trans. Gojeh Sabz) originally found in Iran (Persia); that original greengage cultivar nowadays survives in an almost unchanged form as the cultivar Reine Claude Verte.

I might also have some other things as I get to know the trees I have on a tiny plot of land I just bought in southern Portugal (zone 10A). So far I can see fig, pomegranate and olive, but have no idea about the traits of these trees yet - this will be my first season on the plot.

Please let me know if interested,
Kind Regards, Shari
 
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Josh Willis wrote:i have some sweet cherry volunteers that can trade.  i can only guess at the parentage (maybe schmidt's bigarreau).  but they are very tasty, certainly small, and incredibly vigorous & disease resistant



Hi Josh, would love some of your cherry volunteers if you are interested in a greengage plum seed trade? Where are you located? My mail address is UK, although I do have a small plot in southern Portugal that I just purchased which your cherry would be destinted for I'm looking to regenerate the land with as many varieties of fruit and nut trees as possible. Volunteer trees and seeds are my first step in regeneration of this quite barren plot. I hope planting will help build the soil and provide some shade while developing a small food forest.  I may have others to trade but am still getting to know what grows here and what I may be able to harvest as a seed stock for trade.
Kind regards, Shari
 
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Hi Shari,
I'd be happy to trade - I'm located in the east coast of the US (zone 7).  But - just want to double check that you'd want these.  Looks like you have a small plot, and these cherries are probably descended from a mix of Mahaleb and Mazzard rootstocks (more info here https://www.orangepippintrees.com/articles/fruit-tree-advice/rootstocks-for-cherry-trees ), which are very vigorous - will get 16' to 20'+ when mature.  Of course, that's depending on pruning & growing conditions.  And you can always cut some down later if they get too big, I suppose!  Anyways, if you are still interested, just let me know your email address & I will follow up.
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Hi Josh, would love some of your cherry volunteers if you are interested in a greengage plum seed trade? Where are you located? My mail address is UK, although I do have a small plot in southern Portugal that I just purchased which your cherry would be destinted for I'm looking to regenerate the land with as many varieties of fruit and nut trees as possible. Volunteer trees and seeds are my first step in regeneration of this quite barren plot. I hope planting will help build the soil and provide some shade while developing a small food forest.  I may have others to trade but am still getting to know what grows here and what I may be able to harvest as a seed stock for trade.
Kind regards, Shari

 
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Josh Willis wrote:Hi Shari,
I'd be happy to trade - I'm located in the east coast of the US (zone 7).  But - just want to double check that you'd want these.  Looks like you have a small plot, and these cherries are probably descended from a mix of Mahaleb and Mazzard rootstocks (more info here https://www.orangepippintrees.com/articles/fruit-tree-advice/rootstocks-for-cherry-trees ), which are very vigorous - will get 16' to 20'+ when mature.  Of course, that's depending on pruning & growing conditions.  And you can always cut some down later if they get too big, I suppose!  Anyways, if you are still interested, just let me know your email address & I will follow up.



Hi Josh, thanks for the link, and yes, that sounds perfect! I'm looking at filling the whole lot with an edible forest providing lots of shade, so giant cherry trees would be ideal. The plums wont be ripe for another month before I can pick and clean and send you them out - if that works for you? I'll mesage you now with my mail and email details. Very exciting! Thank you!
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Josh Willis wrote:Hi Shari,
I'd be happy to trade - I'm located in the east coast of the US (zone 7)..


Hi Josh, a rather belated follow up!! Thanks for the seeds, received several weeks ago and they look great. I'm looking forward to getting them in the ground this fall. My greengage tree is rather belated this year, and a bit sparse on fruit (early high winds and 'beast from the east' weather had a detrimental impact on blossom, and therefore fruit! BUT...have managed to harvest some fruits this week and am currently cleaning/drying. Should have them in the mail to you next week. Thanks so much for this wonderful trade. Happy planting 😀
Kind Regards, Shari

 
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Glad they arrived!  And no rush on the greengage thanks!

Shari Bee wrote:

Shari Bee wrote:

Josh Willis wrote:Hi Shari,
I'd be happy to trade - I'm located in the east coast of the US (zone 7)..


Hi Josh, a rather belated follow up!! Thanks for the seeds, received several weeks ago and they look great. I'm looking forward to getting them in the ground this fall. My greengage tree is rather belated this year, and a bit sparse on fruit (early high winds and 'beast from the east' weather had a detrimental impact on blossom, and therefore fruit! BUT...have managed to harvest some fruits this week and am currently cleaning/drying. Should have them in the mail to you next week. Thanks so much for this wonderful trade. Happy planting 😀
Kind Regards, Shari

 
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