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Last year was the first year we tried a private forum for support.  It worked so well, we are doing it again this year.

About 90% of our support from the past was somebody saying that they don't have access to the digital content.  The problems included:

   - not being logged in
   - using an email on permies that is different from kickstarter
 
It was taking us a very long time to sort these two problems out because people don't say "i am not logged in" or "my email is different".  They say "it isn't working."  And then we have to do a lot of stuff to figure out why it isn't working.  

So now, if they can post to the private forum, they have all that working and everything just works.   90% of all support is eliminated.  

Added bonus:

   - people an see the issues that other people are having, and the solutions for those problems. So often times your problem is solved in just a few seconds.

   - there's a LOT of super helpful people on permies that are glad to help with all sorts of things.  So questions are often answered about ten times faster.

   - a nice private place to visit with other backers!

If you supported the kickstarter, you should have access to this forum - but only when you are logged in with your kickstarter email address!

 
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Contributor 1444 here. Paid last night but I have "insufficient permissions" to view the forum.

Thanks!
 
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Hi guys!

Looking forward to seeing this project completed!!

Just having a problem with the access to the forum, it says that I don’t have the permissions to get in.

Payment was processed, signed up with the same email that I did the Kickstarter and I’m logged in...

Thanks!

BYW, I was in IT for over 15 years so I know stuff often doesn’t work when it should!
 
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To get access to the private forum, you all should have received an email from permies with instructions.  Did you get the email?
 
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paul wheaton wrote:To get access to the private forum, you all should have received an email from permies with instructions.  Did you get the email?



You mean the Kickstarter update #17 Paul?
 
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"Project Update #17: Devious Experiments for a Truly Passive Greenhouse! (Movie) by paul wheaton" -email received-

When using link in in email I get: "Oooops.. You don't have sufficient privileges to access this forum"

Set up account with same email address as I contributed to on Kickstarter.
 
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Also having issues getting in.
 -Payment made
 -Same email
 -Logged in
 -"Don't have sufficient access"
 -No other email from Permies other than the last update #17
  from Kickstarter

Excited for this project!

♥️ Backer #532
 
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The link did not work when I first opened the email and I got the 'not sufficient privileges' notice...later it worked just fine  

Everyone might want to try it again?
 
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Ron McCoy wrote:Contributor 1444 here. Paid last night but I have "insufficient permissions" to view the forum.

Thanks!



Questions:
1. Is the email you used on Kickstarter the same as the email you use here?
2. Did you get an email inviting you to the private forum?  I suspect they would have sent it out to the email you used for Kickstarter.  
 
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Still not working here.
 
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I got my invite email.

The subject line is:

[permies] You have been added to a private forum



the message looked a bit like:

Hi name

I am gir bot! A rather limited bot buried deep within the bowels of this forum software.  I come to life once in a while to talk about my favorite things!

Today, I have been activated because Nicole Alderman has granted you access to the top-secret private forum "greenhouse kickstarter support" on permies.com.

Please go through the following link to enjoy:

  link


Note that you must be logged in to get access to the content!


I like tacos!



then I click the link

I suspect the message will be different if you don't already have a permies account.
 
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Ron McCoy wrote:Still not working here.



Ron, can you let us know:
1. Is the email you used on Kickstarter the same as the email you use here?
2. Did you get an email inviting you to the private forum?  I suspect they would have sent it out to the email you used for Kickstarter.  

 
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I did get the invitation, assuming that was Update 17. I'm using the same email for Kickstarter as for the forum. I did have to sign up for the forum after I got the invitation.

Anything else I can try?

Thanks.
 
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paul wheaton wrote:To get access to the private forum, you all should have received an email from permies with instructions.  Did you get the email?



You mean the Kickstarter update #17 Paul?



Nope.

Look at raven's post here:  https://permies.com/t/144694/greenhouse-kickstarter-support-forum#1131236

That is the offiial invitation to that forum.  The reason why that is so important is that if your kickstarter email address is not found on permies, then it sends you a slightly different email - with instructions on a couple of ways to mend the issue, including adding your kickstarter email address to your already existing permies account.
 
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"Project Update #17: Devious Experiments for a Truly Passive Greenhouse! (Movie) by paul wheaton" -email received-

When using link in in email I get: "Oooops.. You don't have sufficient privileges to access this forum"

Set up account with same email address as I contributed to on Kickstarter.



You must be logged in when trying to access that forum.
 
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Meghan Hodgson wrote:Also having issues getting in.
 -Payment made
 -Same email
 -Logged in
 -"Don't have sufficient access"
 -No other email from Permies other than the last update #17
  from Kickstarter

Excited for this project!

♥️ Backer #532



I see you as not having access to the forum.  Do you know if your payment may have been processed after 6pm yesterday for some reason?


 
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I am using an email on permies that is different from kickstarter... So I have the same problem.
 
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Zoran Jovanovic wrote: I am using an email on permies that is different from kickstarter... So I have the same problem.



Did you get an email from permies with instructions?  It would have been on the email that sends kickstarter stuff.
 
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I'm getting the same "Oooops.. You don't have sufficient privileges to access this forum" message after signing up...Backer number 1,249...received the Project Update #17
 
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Mine isn't' working either.  Same email address.  I went to my bank to make sure the payment processed and it is listed as "pending".  Could that be why I don't have access?
 
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yeah, me too. i also used a different email on kickstarter than on permies, and haven't gotten the email. i just checked my bank account and the transaction is there, dated 7/27 and 'pending'. i'm guessing some of us may need to wait the weekend out because of bank stuff on our end...
 
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Ore Green wrote:I'm getting the same "Oooops.. You don't have sufficient privileges to access this forum" message after signing up...Backer number 1,249...received the Project Update #17



try it now.
 
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Maren MacMichael wrote:Mine isn't' working either.  Same email address.  I went to my bank to make sure the payment processed and it is listed as "pending".  Could that be why I don't have access?



Yup - that would slow things down.
 
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greg mosser wrote:yeah, me too. i also used a different email on kickstarter than on permies, and haven't gotten the email. i just checked my bank account and the transaction is there, dated 7/27 and 'pending'. i'm guessing some of us may need to wait the weekend out because of bank stuff on our end...



Yup, "pending" will gum up the works.  
 
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paul wheaton wrote:

Bruno Baker wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:To get access to the private forum, you all should have received an email from permies with instructions.  Did you get the email?



You mean the Kickstarter update #17 Paul?



Nope.

Look at raven's post here:  https://permies.com/t/144694/greenhouse-kickstarter-support-forum#1131236

That is the offiial invitation to that forum.  The reason why that is so important is that if your kickstarter email address is not found on permies, then it sends you a slightly different email - with instructions on a couple of ways to mend the issue, including adding your kickstarter email address to your already existing permies account.



That’s probably why, I signed up for Permies after getting the Update 17 email. So I might have to wait a bit for the system to see me? Or do you have to do it manually?

Anyhow, thanks for the quick feedback and answers Paul!
 
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paul wheaton wrote:

Zoran Jovanovic wrote: I am using an email on permies that is different from kickstarter... So I have the same problem.



Did you get an email from permies with instructions?  It would have been on the email that sends kickstarter stuff.



I  received e-mail which looks exactly like in post from r rsaon above. And I received on the other e-mail, update # 17 e-mail with instructions.   I have access to forum with my primary e-mail, and my secondary e-mail is the kickstarter e-mail.
Now when  I read this post again and I realize the last sentence.  I should log in with kickstarter e-mail address.  Sorry
 
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New here!  Backed the kickstarter and my money got collected.  Got backer email#17, followed link to Permies, and registered same email as I use for kickstarter (I am new), then followed link to private forum and got “insufficient privileges”.  Checked email inbox and junk folder for private forum invite email separate from #17 and nada.  Please advise!
 
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I don't know if this is still an issue, but maybe clear your browser history and stuff then try again.  Could someone try this and let us know if it makes a difference?  
 
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Nicole will be adding some more people later today.  Perhaps that will fix everything.

 
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Good Morning
I pledged the Glory level to access some seemingly great information as I have followed this website for a while now to get a feel of it.  I went to access the goats book as that was part of Glory, cannot access.
Went to #17 link, denied...then realized, of course, I changed emails, so went in here & set up account using new email.  Logged out, logged back to Kickstarter, tried link again, still I do not have permission.
Note: To either email address I did not receive a private invitation unless Kickstarter link is it.
Looking forward to kinks out... :)  
Thank you and appreciate the efforts of all here
 
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John,

Kickstarter is not a store, but a site to get businesses off the ground.   I think we have until May or June of 2021 to deliver most stuff.   But there are a lot of things I hope we have delivered by the end of this year.   And I hope that we have the goat book sent out to those getting it within the next month.

As is, Kickstarter is still working out the payment stuff with a lot of people.  So they don't tell us who paid until two weeks after the kickstarter is over.  So it makes sense that we would not start delivering anything until that time.  Although, in the past, we tend to start giving stuff away a little early ....  :)
 
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Thank You Paul for clarification of process, makes sense as Patience is a virtue comes to play here  :)
 
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Michael Redding wrote:New here!  Backed the kickstarter and my money got collected.  Got backer email#17, followed link to Permies, and registered same email as I use for kickstarter (I am new), then followed link to private forum and got “insufficient privileges”.  Checked email inbox and junk folder for private forum invite email separate from #17 and nada.  Please advise!



All fixed! Thanks!  Excited to see the project progress!!!
 
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paul wheaton wrote:To get access to the private forum, you all should have received an email from permies with instructions.  Did you get the email?




I did not receive the email, but created a new Permies with the same email account I us for Kickstarter, and am now waiting to see it that will result in access, which is not the case on account creation.

Fingers crossed.
 
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Just created a permies account with the same email as on kickstarter,so I haven't received an email yet. My backer # is1,920. Thanks!
 
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Alex Chadsey wrote:Just created a permies account with the same email as on kickstarter,so I haven't received an email yet. My backer # is1,920. Thanks!



Alex, I added you manually, just now.  I'll check in with nicole and devaka to see what happened.
 
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I am in and thnk you for all you do for Permaculture in general.
 
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