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posting one's own videos without posting to youtube first?

 
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I was wondering if there is a go around for posting videos from my camera, pc or flashdrive without having to put them on youtube first?

I'm able to post short videos on facebook same as I do my photos...just upload from my computer or flash drive.

I expect if it was possible it would be available.....

It's entirely possible I've asked the same exact question before and it will show up in similar topics after I post  
 
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We don't have a way to do that, aside from someone uploading it as a downloadable video link....which is pretty much useless.

On one had, I think it'd be really cool to have people be able to just upload a video straight to permies. On the other hand, there seems to be some disadvantages:

(1) Cost on Paul to host videos. Videos are generally larger files than photos and so probably cost a lot more for him to host.

(2) It might end up being a moderating nightmare. It's pretty easy for a moderator to see if a photo is appropriate or not. Someone could post not-nice stuff in their video and we'd have to slog through an hour of video to find it. Or, even worse, people could post truly nasty videos here on permies, and Paul might get in a crazy amount of trouble if someone starts hosting child porn stuck in the middle of their hour long video or something horrible like that here on permies and we don't find out about it until too late.
 
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Thanks Nicole, I see what you're saying...not sure how posting to youtube first will prevent embedded porn though? I suppose youtube has the filters to prevent.

...and I didn't think about it costing something to 'host'.

All I wanted to do was post some 30 second butterfly videos

I did read how to set up to post them at youtube more privately and got as far as a separate email and might have even done one and then decided I didn't want to deal with them.


 
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I do my videos as unlisted through youtube. I totally understand not wanting to learn, and it's like 5 extra steps than just uploading straight to permies. It took me a long time to work up posting unlisted youtube videos and I usually don't even bother to try. if people could host here one permies, it'd make the PEP stuff a lot easier, too.

not sure how posting to youtube first will prevent embedded porn though? I suppose youtube has the filters to prevent.



I don't really know about the legality and all, but there seems to be a large responsibility on the hoster of the videos that they are legal. I honestly don't know much about it all at all, but I know youtube has gotten in a lot of legal trouble because of the things people hosted on their site. We honestly haven't talked about it at all behind the scenes, and I have no idea how much time/money it'd take to develop the technology to host videos here on permies.

I know 99% of the time, normal posters here on permies post nice things and would only post totally awesome videos. But, there's been times when we had to watch 100 minute videos in the cider press to figure out if we needed to delete a thread/post. I can just imagine how much worse that'd be if people were hosting their videos here. Or, if spammers made their first post with a video--we'd have to find a away to unhost their video, because other wise they'd be able to share it all over the web while Paul pays the bill. *Shudder.*
 
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Thanks again Nicole!

I may try to dig up what I started on youtube. It's not the learning 'how to' I find difficult though it's the extra exposure online.  

It would be just one more place I have information to keep track of.  
 
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facebook videos will give you an embed code. It looks like this:

<iframe style="border: none; overflow: hidden;" src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https://www.facebook.com/gavin.lang.94/videos/10163816254255019/&show_text=0" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen" width="350" height="560" frameborder="0"></iframe><



Only part of that is the actual link to the video. The rest just describes to your browser how to display it. The "link" or the url is just the middle part:

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https://www.facebook.com/gavin.lang.94/videos/10163816254255019/



If you place that part into the url tag, you'll get a usable link, like this: my facebook video.

This method has some shortcomings. Obviously, it's nice to be able to embed the video, rather than link to it on another page. Also the embed code defined how large the video is to be displayed. This method loses those instructions. The video plays at it's original size. On a small screen like my phone, I can only see the top of it. It's the best I could figure out, unless someone creates a [facebook video] tag that would handle that url the same way as the [youtube] tag handles it's urls. I've no idea how difficult that would be, or if it's reasonable to request.

Just a heads up: The video I linked is our youth minister, and is religious in nature. I'm no longer on facebook, so this was the only facebook video url I could access quickly. If it's not your thing, feel free not to watch it. It's content is not relevant to understanding how to create a link like this.
 
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Thanks T! I did some exploring. It looks like the video has to be public on facebook for the link to work (which is a good thing, I'm sure. But, interestingly, the same does NOT apply to copying the URL of an IMAGE on facebook. You can copy a private image's url and post it here on permies and it works. Though, those links seem to expire after a while).

Also, if someone does this, the person watching the video will be able to see what your facebook profile/name is...which could be a problem with those who use alias's for security reasons.

also, I think facebook switched from giving embed codes, to the url to the video.

So, in the T's example, you'd get the url of https://www.facebook.com/gavin.lang.94/videos/10163816254255019/

To get it to link right, you just have to stick the fancy code T used above "https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=" and put that in front of the url.

That gives you:

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https://www.facebook.com/gavin.lang.94/videos/10163816254255019/
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:It looks like the video has to be public on facebook for the link to work (which is a good thing, I'm sure. But, interestingly, the same does NOT apply to copying the URL of an IMAGE on facebook. You can copy a private image's url and post it here on permies and it works. Though, those links seem to expire after a while).



Facebook actually wouldn't give me the embed code for that video, but Gavin asked me to imbed it. Don't know how Paul would feel about me explaining how to get around facebook's "security" in this instance, but suffice to say it wasn't too difficult. (Think of protecting your valuables by setting them in the yard and spray painting a line around them.) Maybe they've improved that by now?

Nicole Alderman wrote:Also, if someone does this, the person watching the video will be able to see what your facebook profile/name is...which could be a problem with those who use alias's for security reasons.



I agree, that is an important consideration. I'd rather know that and make an informed decision than to be blind-sided.
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:So, in the T's example, you'd get the url of https://www.facebook.com/gavin.lang.94/videos/10163816254255019/

To get it to link right, you just have to stick the fancy code T used above "https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=" and put that in front of the url.

That gives you:

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https://www.facebook.com/gavin.lang.94/videos/10163816254255019/



Good catch. That bit of code was originally provided by facebook. I guess it's also a url of sorts, but for the player, not for the video. It takes both to get the above results.
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:I do my videos as unlisted through youtube. I totally understand not wanting to learn, and it's like 5 extra steps than just uploading straight to permies. It took me a long time to work up posting unlisted youtube videos and I usually don't even bother to try. if people could host here one permies, it'd make the PEP stuff a lot easier, too.


I now have a youtube channel with one video ...will let that settle and see what I think in a few days?

I tried 'unlisted' but it wouldn't let me embed the video here at permies so I made it 'public' at youtube.  

Would 'unlisted' have worked if I only posted the url here rather than trying to embed?

 
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Weird, I've always embedded unlisted videos here.

Try posting the url here, and I'll see if I can get it to embed.
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:Weird, I've always embedded unlisted videos here.

Try posting the url here, and I'll see if I can get it to embed.



I've already made it public and it's embedded in my butterfly thread.  When it was unlisted the video box showed but had a notice that I had to give permission or something?

I'll go change it and try to post here.
 
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I've switched the visibility to 'unlisted'.....



EDIT...and there it is!  I must have messed up the setting the first time? hit 'private' instead?
Thanks for getting me to try again Nicole...I'm much more comfortable with it now
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:You might have chosen Private instead of Unlisted? Maybe?



that's what I'm thinking now!
 
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Yay! I'm glad we got it figured out. I remember being really confused by the options, too, when I first encountered them.
 
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Re-cap:
1. To post a video, I'd have to make a YouTube channel -how hard is that? Anything really scary about it? Special software needed?
2. I can keep the channel "unlisted" .
3. I then use the Youtube button above to post it to permies?

Could a dinosaur do this?
 
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Jay Angler wrote:Re-cap:
1. To post a video, I'd have to make a YouTube channel -how hard is that? Anything really scary about it? Special software needed?
2. I can keep the channel "unlisted" .
3. I then use the Youtube button above to post it to permies?

Could a dinosaur do this?



It's really pretty easy

The big thing for me was that I didn't want another thing tied to my most often used email address so I opened a new gmail acct. just for youtube.

After that you sign in to your account at youtube with your gmail account, click on the icon that for me has the letter 'J' and in the drop down menu click on your 'channel', then follow the instructions to upload a video from pc or flash drive...phone too I'm sure but I don't have one.

It's all pretty straight forward without too many distractions.  
There is the 'visibility' option where you can choose 'unlisted' before each video is posted.  There isn't a setting for visibility for your whole channel, just each video individually.  

and yes! dinosaur friendly
 
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and yes, once it's on your youtube channel you paste the videos link into the youtube box at permies just like any other youtube video.
 
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Jay Angler wrote:Re-cap:
1. To post a video, I'd have to make a YouTube channel -how hard is that? Anything really scary about it? Special software needed?
2. I can keep the channel "unlisted" .
3. I then use the Youtube button above to post it to permies?

Could a dinosaur do this?



now I'm just nosy  and wondering if you got a channel set up?
 
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Judith Browning wrote:I've switched the visibility to 'unlisted'.....
...and there it is!  



Thank you for going through all that learning and posting the video, Judith! How beautiful it was to watch, both the butterflies as well as the happy looking flowers they were on!
 
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Annie Collins wrote:

Judith Browning wrote:I've switched the visibility to 'unlisted'.....
...and there it is!  



Thank you for going through all that learning and posting the video, Judith! How beautiful it was to watch, both the butterflies as well as the happy looking flowers they were on!



Thank you Annie! Both the butterflies and flowers have been a special joy this summer
Here is the link to my thread that I was posting to, mostly stills but I really wanted to add some videos also..  
There are a couple more there besides this one now.....

https://permies.com/t/147024/butterflies-garden#1149975
 
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Judith Browning wrote:

now I'm just nosy   and wondering if you got a channel set up?

It's in the queue, but Hubby won't get important projects done until the 3 days too late to make the transition manageable. I just spent 1 1/2 hours doing Step 2 of cleaning the brooder as Hubby had pullets in there until last night. Lunch and then I'll have to give up on doing Step 3 and 4 and go right to Steps 5 and 6 and hope the meat chicks scheduled to arrive today at 7 pm will not catch anything nasty. At some point my defense mechanism of "not caring" kicks in, and I think we're past that by a month or so...
 
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Because I haven't been satisfied with the constantly changing and convoluted terms and conditions for YouTube, I've been posting my garden videos on Bitchute. Currently, the forum does not display embedded videos from Bitchute, but hyperlinks still work in posts. Here is the link to my current channel that I've been using on Bitchute:
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/Riyd6uFNAKXy/
 
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