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Cleaning up old and outdated real estate posts, and a couple suggestions.

 
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Newbie here, please forgive if you have already discussed/addressed. Also, there is a lot of really good info being shared here... Great job on that!!!

I have come across several outdated “selling real estate” type posts like the following:

https://permies.com/t/69367/Selling-acre-permaculture-farm-minutes#1115520

(This place sold back in 2017)


Being an I.T. person, if I was running your servers, I would love to clean that post off to free up space on both the server(s) and backup(s). While I am having a great time reading some older posts in other areas (full of great info, wisdom, and knowledge), an outdated real estate ad isn’t one I would keep, and there are many that are outdated and no longer needed (that post has several pictures I suspect are chewing up space).

A way for us to flag them with a place to write the reason might let us help you do some metaphorical spring cleaning.

I would also love to be able to search/filter for land/real estate, at least by state or country or something (not that there are a lot of them... So no big rush...  It seems like some Permies folks will offer to sell land to other permies people first. That is very cool and adds some perceived value to your site for both sellers and buyers. Good job on that too!!!

Have a great day!!! Thanks!

 
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Hi Paul,

There should be a little (...) icon where you can hit a button called (!Report) whereupon you may write a message to alert the staff if you think it warrants moderator attention (for deletion in this case).  The forum tries to encourage "perennial discussion," so it is possible that some things which are old may still have some value, but yes, for expired real estate listings, I totally agree with you.  Why get everyone's hopes up?
 
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Maybe rather than delete, it would be good to somehow mark them to show that they have sold.

 
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That is what happened to mine it now says "Sold" in the title, I did report it myself though, cannot expect the mods to know when a property sells!
 
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Maybe a "flag" icon that says "SOLD"
Most of the real estate threads just have "photos" or "apples" icons showing, so it would probably be easy to notice while scanning the list of threads.

The tricky thing would be how to follow through on tagging listings as "SOLD". Maybe an automatic expiration, that triggers a GIR Bot reminder(s) to the OP to update the thread? either sold, or still for sale, which would bump it back to the top, otherwise flag the thread as "OLD" if no reply.
 
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To me, I feel if the OP could update their thread to show "Sold" as the first word in the title or use the report button to ask that the thread be updated to show "Sold" would be the best solution.
 
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paul wheaton wrote:Maybe rather than delete, it would be good to somehow mark them to show that they have sold.



Hi, I made a post before I realized that posts could not be edited or deleted in any way by the author (me) apparently??
That took me by surprise. I would feel safer here having a little more control over what I am sharing. There are many reasons why a person may need this feature. Especially when posting opportunities or real estate. Some folks post their email addresses but may later want them removed for security purposes. It really should be an option to be able to delete your own posts...without relying on a staff person.

I hope I am asking this in the right place but I had trouble finding a definitive guide for such questions after spending hours hunting around in forums. To ask the question all I have gathered so far is that I need to post in this forum (and pollute the site more by generating yet another post that can't be deleted?)

In other words, how does a user delete a post that contains personal info they may no longer want to share? Thank you.
 
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I would feel safer here having a little more control over what I am sharing. There are many reasons why a person may need this feature. Especially when posting opportunities or real estate. Some folks post their email addresses but may later want them removed for security purposes. It really should be an option to be able to delete your own posts...without relying on a staff person.



If anyone is not feeling safe about information they've chosen to post, a neat technique is to simply change one's name in the profile settings.  As long as it is a "real sounding" name, the staff is likely happy.  It's really simple to do, just check out the "My Profile" section at the top on the browser.  

It's a common question about "why can't I take back and delete what I've said", and I've learned over the past months of perusing around that there are many reasons that this site has a general non-deleting and low-editing policy.
1) I've come to realize that it makes the site more authentic: just like in the physical world, there are no takebacks once we speak, as the vibrations are out there forever, bouncing around the universe and affecting peoples lives and impressions.  Authenticity is great.
2) There's also a saying that "the Internet is forever" in that everything we do can come back to get us, for better or worse; so the no/low deleting policy encourages us to be polite and kind to one another, and accountable for our words.  Kindness is great.
3) It also helps preserve knowledge gained.  If someone starts a cool permaculture project, and then it fails miserably, and they become embarrassed and delete the post, then how will the rest of the world learn from the mistakes?  Learning is great.
4) It respects the hard work and community effort of others.  Imagine a person posting a very personal or unique question, and then a dozen people show up with a bunch of thoughtful answers, and then once they person gets their solution...*poof* everyone's effort is gone because the OP hit delete.  Respecting other's time/effort is great.
5) It'd be a lot of work deleting things.  And the staff are all volunteers.  Respecting volunteers' efforts is great.

So you aren't "polluting" the site really.  You're just learning the "permanent"-"culture" along with the rest of us!  

A year from now someone may have the same question, and then they'll stumble upon this conversation, and be like "oh...that's why they don't delete real-estate posts...hmm.

It has also helped me to remember that I'm only a guest on this site.  Like I'm in Paul Wheaton's (digital) living room. Since I'm not paying or being paid to come here, I'm not in the business of providing online system or policy recommendations, so I gotta' choose to wear my "guest" hat, rather than my "marketing" or "design consulting" hat.  Even though I hate that Paul, say... drops the f-bomb because...now my wife won't let me listen to his podcasts in the house anymore :(..
 
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However, one can edit posts. Use a desktop/laptop and click on "..."  at the right of your post.

I tend to edit my posts a bunch.  I don't know if that bothers the staff much. I know it makes just a little more work for them.

Usually I edit things because I misspelled something (like I just did a minute ago!), or I got the unique formatting wrong for a link or image, or occasionally there is critical information missing and I want future readers to catch it early on in a thread, rather than way later.
 
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