Josh Jamison wrote:I think a lot of permaculture techniques are bound to fail on highly domesticated plants such as tomatoes. The book Tomatoland talks about the domestication of tomatoes and how they have been bred to be very weak and susceptible to disease and insect damage.
This isn't to say we shouldn't grow tomatoes but we will have to make slight compromises to meet the plants needs on a genetic level. In my experience and unstaked tomato will sometimes succumb to fungal diseases and fruit damage.
John Polk wrote:Carolyn Male, author of "100 Heirloom Tomatoes..." claims that she has never staked her tomatoes.
Some of the best tomato cages I have seen are simply circles made from CRW (concrete reinforcing wire).
Xisca Nicolas wrote:Hi guys! I would love some photos to understand this of the cattle panels and T post etc, because it is difficult for me to imagine.
Sometimes I understand the words, but fail to imagine what it is exactly.
I googled cattle panel so I understand what is the material itself, but not how you organize it.
Here, sprawling tomatoes are susceptible to ...lizard eating!
Also, I like using the 3D for space saving.
Xisca Nicolas wrote:If I understand, Nicole arch the panels as a support, and suki put them horizontally as shelves...
Xisca Nicolas wrote:Thanks for explaining Jay. I did not know if it was only one row, as J W speaks about rectangular BOX, and something that folds...
He might have a different system...
For the T-post, for me it is what holds clothelines... that's it?
If I understand, Nicole arch the panels as a support, and suki put them horizontally as shelves...
I tell you the local system here:
It is of wood / bamboo / or iron.
They make A shapes (but the A is flat on top).
Then they join the A shapes with horizontal poles, in order to make a line.
the tomatoes grow in between and the side stems can be supported by the horizontal poles.
I have seen metal ones piled up along a field for next use.
Xisca Nicolas wrote:Nicole, ok i got it. I thought you had made something like a little winter tunnel without the plastic sheet!
By the way, the first photo of your link, Nicole, is a popular way to stake tomatoes in France, and especially in plastic houses, as you use the arch to tie the ropes.
The tomato is less hurt by just winding up around the rope.
(but they are also pruned)
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