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Does anyone freeze dry?

 
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I make some good beef jerky. However I am wondering if I should pick up a small freeze dryer when I move. I would want to freeze dry meats for longer term storage. Is there an advantage to freeze drying over making jerky or smoking meats? I don't know if I will be on grid power after I move if that makes a difference. I expect I will be on solar and wind, and if I am lucky water power. Has anyone tried freeze drying. I basically know nothing about it.
 
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Freeze drying is great to keep high quality preservation over a long time, but there are a few very tricky parts:
1. Doing it right takes a freezer that you can also hook up a nice vacuum pump on -- much more than a shop vac, we're talking a heavy roughing pump that can run 24 hours or more stright! Of course this makes it hard to check progress too if you don't have a constant recipe.
2. To keep things over time, you need to package them up mostly oxygen free, which usually means vacuum packing, preferably with a nitrogen tank to purcge the last bit. Since the cell walls stay full with ice holes after completion, oxygen will tear up anything you don't protect very quickly!

Unless you have high motivation for a large quantity of freeze dried goods, I think it's far more work than it's worth - I would stick to a chest freezer, dehydrator, and some vacuum seal jars...
 
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It seems like freeze drying has become quite popular in recent years. The biggest deterrent is the cost of the unit! I don't have one, so I have no idea if it's worth it. But I found these videos on the topic interesting.





 
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Just got our HR freeze dryer and in the process of learning all sorts of new stuff - I absolutely love it! Only had it a month and so far I’ve done fire-roasted tomatoes, raw milk, herbs from my garden (so much better than reg drying!), apples, eggs, limes, kiwi, beets, rotisserie chicken and bone broth, potatoes, peppers, marigolds for the chickens, kielbasa & just starting to try whole meals - I’m addicted! I would love to talk with other folks on the freeze drying journey!
 
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Chris Quillen wrote:Just got our HR freeze dryer and in the process of learning all sorts of new stuff - I absolutely love it! Only had it a month and so far I’ve done . . . rotisserie chicken and bone broth. . .


Chris, I'm really curious about this, especially freeze dried bone broth! Can you tell us a little more about it? Maybe share some pictures?
 
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I did the bone broth in my crockpot on low for 30+hrs, bone & skin from rotisserie chicken along with carrots, celery, ACV to draw out the nutrients then stained and prefroze in silicone molds then into the freeze dryer, powdered and into vacuum sealed mason jar
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My first batch... tomatoes fire roasted in oven fresh with black garlic and adobo (no oil for freeze drying) then frozen, then freeze dried & jarred - SO delicious and will last up to 25yrs on the shelf - along with maintaining 97% of nutrients and flavor... I’m completely hooked!!
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I saw a video back shortly after I first heard about home freeze dryers. It showed where someone had dried a whole steak in the freeze dryer, and later reconstituted it and grilled it just like a fresh steak. Have been trying to find the video and can't find it. Has anyone tried something like that? Hoping I can find someone near me that has one into trying this. I'd even supply or pay for the meat if they will. So many here including myself live off grid. It would be a great way to store foods without refrigeration.
 
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So you can freeze dry, but to get them last a long time you still need to vacuum pack the products?
Can someone please advise.
 
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Vicky - yes you can freeze dry raw meat and reconstitutes like fresh... some feel that cooking it while you have the means and then freeze drying helps on the other end I’d say no electricity, etc. Plus the more fat something has the less time it will stay preserved, so sometimes less fat post cooking - either way
Definitely a great way to preserve on or off grid!
 
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Kaarina not vacuum packed - generally in Mason jar vacuum sealed for short term storage or in jars (stored in dark/dry spot) or in Mylar bags, both with oxygen absorbers for long term - hope this helps
 
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Chris Quillen wrote:Kaarina Mason jar vacuum sealed for short term storage or in Mylar bags, with oxygen absorbers for long term /quote]
Thank you Chris ❤
I was considering a freeze drier and this is the answer I needed. So the product lasts, but needs to be vacuum sealed for long term storage. Unlike  conventionally dried food, which keeps in airtight containers.

Thank you. I just love this forum ❤❤❤

 
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I just got my Freeze dryer last week. It’s on the smaller side, being a medium from blue alpine, but I think it will be enough for me.
So far I have run parsley, basil, okra and watermelon through it, and it all came out so nice.
I am looking forward to freeze drying rabbit meat later this week, plus more herbs and okra
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I got my freeze-dryer about a year ago.  There were problems getting it to function correctly, and I had to basically disassemble it and do the fixes myself...I was not happy, but it would have been a nightmare to send it back, so I did it, and it wasn't nearly as daunting as I thought it would be.  I had to seal some wires while it was running...aren't we always taught that water (liquid) and electricity don't mix?!  I was sure I was going to electrocute myself.  Since getting the vacuum to function correctly, I have FD'd tomato paste, strawberries, wine cap mushrooms, asparagus, cream cheese, sour cream, herbs and eggs.  All have been successful.  There are numerous videos online and have all been very helpful.  Check out "Retired at 40." I got it as a way to store all of the produce that will be coming with my food forest.  
As far as vacuum sealing mason jars, I got a little sealer that fits over the flat lid, sucks out the oxygen and must have warmth that seals it to the glass.  From there, I just screw on the lid.  I got something similar to this:  https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Cordless-Regular-Storage-Fermentation/dp/B0C9L6ZMDC/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=bottle+sealing+machine&qid=1701724104&sr=8-5
That whole process takes about a minute.  I have not used the mylar bags that come with the unit because I cannot stand the idea of using so much plastic.   Beside that, things look pretty in the mason jars.  Do I use it all the time; no.  I have powdered most things using my food processor which helps save room.  I have yet to try meat, but probably the next time I go to Costco and get some rotisserie chickens, I might.  Apparently, FD'd Skittles is a thing.  People are making quite a side-hustle making them!
 
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They want a lot of money for these contraptions, so, for me, right now I won't go hunting for one. [You can get a lot of food for $3-4,000] I'll keep my mind open and see if the price goes down, see what others have to say who have used it, read all negative reviews....
A lot of my food is canned and we also have 2 freezers that are full. We can rig a hand pump to pull water if we have to, even in the winter.
Also, as a rule, in the Central sands of Wisconsin, we don't have tornadoes, fires or floods, so you have to prep for actual dangers of emergencies. I feel that we have good awareness of what we could do if pressed. so I'm not hyper about physical dangers that may befall us.
We keep our eyes open, though. and I'll keep freeze drying in mind.
Perhaps one way to lower the cost would be to buy one as a group of neighbors. I'm ready to pay more than my neighbors and use my electricity if I keep it on my property and they could come on over to do it. Or, better yet they could pay me a fixed amount per meal freeze dried and I would budget to buy one outright.[That would help me pay for the installments...?] Frankly, that's the only way I could afford one.
 
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We have the large. We got it primarily for selling FD candy at Farmers Markets and events. After an Escape from WA this year, we're going to start producing our own stuff and also maybe for neighbors/church. We also had a glitch off the bat with needing to replace the motherboard but they sent it to us and an easy swap. The horror story we missed out that some have experienced was the system arriving looking like it was air dropped. Great community online with recipes, suggestions and *Don't Do This* (the photos are quite amusing). There a couple 'new kids on the block' trying to get in on the action which happens. Some have improvements and others clearly show they were rushed out the door. Always fun at events hearing people saying "I have a freezer and a dehydrator. I can do that too." Ok... good luck with that.
Best of success!
 
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I’ll admit I’m envious of those of you with freeze driers, and very impressed by all the things you’ve preserved! I don’t have the space or $$$ right now, so I’ll keep waiting. But I do have a question - why isn’t freeze-dried pasta a thing?

I like to use freeze dried foods to make quick mixes for soups and simple meals. I would love to include pasta that would rehydrate and be perfectly cooked, but I can’t find anything like that!

I have to carry my drinking/cooking water up three flights of steps - I’m not willing to use it to boil pasta and pour it out. (Yes, I know there are ways to use that water, but I have other ways I like to use it.)

Is freeze-dried pasta a possibility? Has anyone tried it?
 
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We bought one a bit under 2 years ago and it has been wonderful!  We still can and dehydrate, but with our garden giving us an abundance, well, we have really been able to put food aside!  
We freeze dry for long term and short term storage.
Nothing like a cup of chicken stock made from FD'd chicken stock, cup of hot water and couple tablespoons of powdered chicken stock.  My favorite is stock made from Costco's rotisserie chicken.  Lot's of bits of chicken in the cup.
Veggies ready to add to soups and stews.  Did I mention the FD'd homemade icecream??  While at hunting camp this fall that was a real treat.
Fruits for snacking on.  Lots of meals ready to eat.  Leftovers are great fd'd.
Our chickens gave us a lot of eggs this past year and we scrambled them, FD'd them and powdered them.  2 tablespoons of egg, 2 tablespoon of water = 1 egg.  Great for scrambled eggs or baking.  Hard to tell the difference from fresh.
Machine was expensive, but we feel it has more than paid for itself.  We have many tote's full of food, over 200 jars of canned food and lots of dehydrated foods.
 
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Freeze dried ice cream is a genius idea!
 
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Rick Deckard wrote:We have the large. We got it primarily for selling FD candy at Farmers Markets and events. After an Escape from WA this year, we're going to start producing our own stuff and also maybe for neighbors/church. We also had a glitch off the bat with needing to replace the motherboard but they sent it to us and an easy swap. The horror story we missed out that some have experienced was the system arriving looking like it was air dropped. Great community online with recipes, suggestions and *Don't Do This* (the photos are quite amusing). There a couple 'new kids on the block' trying to get in on the action which happens. Some have improvements and others clearly show they were rushed out the door. Always fun at events hearing people saying "I have a freezer and a dehydrator. I can do that too." Ok... good luck with that.
Best of success!



If you don't mind, how is the Farmers Market candy biz doing for you? Is it doing well enough to recoup the cost or is it more of an add-on, supplemental income thing? My friend has the smaller version and recommended going with a large; I'm just not sure I have enough growing to gain the benefit.
 
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Can any of you that have a freeze drying system comment on power consumption? I am fairly certain that for those of us who live off-grid it's not an option unless you have humongous battery storage capacity. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think the process is on the order of 24 or more hours and pretty power hungry through the night. If someone knows the wattage demand of their machine and running time that would be helpful to know.
 
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Re " [I] am wondering if I should pick up a small freeze dryer when I move. . . .

          NO

You will use it and outgrow it immediately. Get a medium.


How much do we like our freeze dryer? I bought a chest freezer just to stream line the processes. I dedicated a lot of basement space to racks and tubs to store all the food I get free from local farms (field and orchard), the local asparagus packing plant . . . .

All those pumpkins you could have got a killer deal on, those big bags of carrots and so on, they make great powder that will store twenty-five years for that super soup.

Eggs come out ALL scrambled, but you won't be able to tell them from fresh. So too it goes with milk. This isn't the dried milk garbage you grew up with. Shrimp turns into Styrofoam and would be gone in a MILD gust of wind, but it re-hydrates in minutes and if you cool it, you'll think you just brought it back from Safeway.

And on and on it goes.
 
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I freeze dry all our excess garden tomatoes.  I love the tomato soup that comes from it.


Chris Quillen wrote:My first batch... tomatoes fire roasted in oven fresh with black garlic and adobo (no oil for freeze drying) then frozen, then freeze dried & jarred - SO delicious and will last up to 25yrs on the shelf - along with maintaining 97% of nutrients and flavor... I’m completely hooked!!

 
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Congrads on the escape. Sad it wasn't that we could bag the problem and sent it off. Preferably south. Well beyond our borders.

Rick Deckard wrote:We have the large. We got it primarily for selling FD candy at Farmers Markets and events. After an Escape from WA this year, we're going to start producing our own stuff and also maybe for neighbors/church. We also had a glitch off the bat with needing to replace the motherboard but they sent it to us and an easy swap. The horror story we missed out that some have experienced was the system arriving looking like it was air dropped. Great community online with recipes, suggestions and *Don't Do This* (the photos are quite amusing). There a couple 'new kids on the block' trying to get in on the action which happens. Some have improvements and others clearly show they were rushed out the door. Always fun at events hearing people saying "I have a freezer and a dehydrator. I can do that too." Ok... good luck with that.
Best of success!

 
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https://harvestright.com/blog/2016/how-much-energy-does-freeze-drying-use/

I have the medium-size HarvestRight. Took months to get it working - them sending replacement parts for us to install, then finally they shipped it back to the factory and fixed the leak in the top of the chamber. They paid for everything except my electrician's time. though they gave me a $100 credit that I happily used to get extra trays.

You sometimes have to fuss with the door seal being properly clean.

All that said, I do like it! Especially the dried apple slices of my tasty cooking apples. Last spring I bought lots of asparagus when it a good price and separated the tender spear tips from the thicker lower stock which I sliced in pieces. I parboiled them and freeze dried. The spear tips are fun to eat as-is. The thicker pieces I either throw into some hot broth, or powder them in the food processor to be used for instant "cream of" asparagus soup.
 
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Glenn Littman wrote:Can any of you that have a freeze drying system comment on power consumption? I am fairly certain that for those of us who live off-grid it's not an option unless you have humongous battery storage capacity. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think the process is on the order of 24 or more hours and pretty power hungry through the night. If someone knows the wattage demand of their machine and running time that would be helpful to know.



They are power hungry for off grid.  I just saw a post about that a couple days ago on a facebook forum.  The people said that they had to run a generator whenever the sun wasn't shining.  And they had a battery bank that would run their freezer.

Here in Montana where I am it costs me about $3.00 a day to run it, that's for 24 hours, and each batch usually averages 32 hours or so.
 
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I think the idea of FD pasta is a great one.  I'm sure it's done in pre-packaged meals and surely would be a wonderful time saver. I remember when my brother hiked the Appalachian Trail, he had all sorts of FD meals, and I thought that he remarked that spaghetti was one of his favorites.  On "Retired at 40" he did a video about FD rice, and I thought that that was a brilliant idea. Maybe he's done one about pasta, too.  I'll have to check it out!  I hate dirtying the huge pan to cook pasta in, but if I were to dirty it once and cook a whole lot of pasta, I would be very happy!  Unfortunately, I am back on my Keto diet, so pasta is no longer something I eat.  I'm sure someone with a freeze-dryer would be willing to try it out, though.  Thanks for the thought!  

Kim Arnold wrote:I’ll admit I’m envious of those of you with freeze driers, and very impressed by all the things you’ve preserved! I don’t have the space or $$$ right now, so I’ll keep waiting. But I do have a question - why isn’t freeze-dried pasta a thing?

I like to use freeze dried foods to make quick mixes for soups and simple meals. I would love to include pasta that would rehydrate and be perfectly cooked, but I can’t find anything like that!

I have to carry my drinking/cooking water up three flights of steps - I’m not willing to use it to boil pasta and pour it out. (Yes, I know there are ways to use that water, but I have other ways I like to use it.)

Is freeze-dried pasta a possibility? Has anyone tried it?

 
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True dat!  I read a lot before moving on my purchase.  I considered the size of the unit and where I would put it.  One of the biggest factors was the plug. Both the small and the medium use a regular outlet, but the large requires a special outlet...hence, an electrician and lack of flexibility as to where you house the unit.  The medium is not huge.  I would say it's about the size of a large mini fridge, but it is heavy.  I needed help moving it up onto the cart which is very useful in order to pull it out of where it's parked so that I can open and close the valve on the side. You will need a sturdy cart.  Check the stats; they are all on the website.  You might have to peck around a bit, but you'll want to know the answers before going further.  

Kelly Craig wrote:Re " [I] am wondering if I should pick up a small freeze dryer when I move. . . .

          NO

You will use it and outgrow it immediately. Get a medium.


How much do we like our freeze dryer? I bought a chest freezer just to stream line the processes. I dedicated a lot of basement space to racks and tubs to store all the food I get free from local farms (field and orchard), the local asparagus packing plant . . . .

All those pumpkins you could have got a killer deal on, those big bags of carrots and so on, they make great powder that will store twenty-five years for that super soup.

Eggs come out ALL scrambled, but you won't be able to tell them from fresh. So too it goes with milk. This isn't the dried milk garbage you grew up with. Shrimp turns into Styrofoam and would be gone in a MILD gust of wind, but it re-hydrates in minutes and if you cool it, you'll think you just brought it back from Safeway.

And on and on it goes.

 
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I do pasta dishes all the time. Make the pasta dish of whatever it is you want to freeze dry, put it into the tray and freeze it. After it's frozen put it in the freeze drier and run it through a normal cycle, I like to give it a little extra dry time to be sure. When the cycle is done, break into appropriate size chunks for a Mylar bag, add an Oxygen absorber and if you can suck out a little air then seal. To rehydrate, put as much of the pasta as you want to use into a bowl and slowly add boiling water while gently stirring. When the pasta is the correct consistency enjoy.  
 
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I do not own one, and looking at the price, just for 2 people, I can put away a lot of food with the canner, the dehydrator or the root cellar, if only I had one ;-)
The big advantage of a freeze drier is that food will be reconstituted better that from dehydration alone, and the food will last many, many years. I am 75 and so is hubby, so we are getting close to the time when we don't buy "bulk", if you know what I mean.
For large families or institutions, group homes, close knit communities, I can see a lot of benefits to going that route though.
 
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Kaarina Kreus wrote:So you can freeze dry, but to get them last a long time you still need to vacuum pack the products?
Can someone please advise.



It does not have to be vacuum sealed. The mylar bags are heat sealed with oxygen absorbers inside. but it does not vacuum them. the bags do not end up hard vacuumed. There are still other gases in the bag so it is not like a hard package or tightly formed to the product.

I vacuum seal things for the freezer, and the seal frequently do not stay air tight. They frequently lose the vacuum. I have tried multiple brands of machines and bags over the years. It will vacuum but only for a short time.

The mylar bags stay heat sealed until you cut them open. And I usually use more oxygen absorbers than recommended for the size and product just to hold things longer.

I live in a state where there are many things that can cut us off from supplies. We are in a semi remote village in Alaska. The state is already at the end of the food supply chain, then we also have the possibility of earthquakes, avalanches, snow storms, freezing rain, icy roads, and all that is before we get to man made issues like trucking strikes, lack of employees and so on. Having a way to make sure my things stay sealed and fresh for as long as possible... To me that is a big deal.  I've seen folks get snowed in for more than two weeks at a time until plows could catch up with all the snow that we got in a two day period.
 
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I'm pretty much trying to stick to a Keto diet--it's the only thing that works for me and at a doctor's appt. I was one point away from being diabetic, so I'm really quite strict with it now.  I love pasta, rice, bread...carbs of all types, but have to avoid them at all cost.  I know that you can do rice very successfully, so I can't imagine why pasta wouldn't work.  My brother hiked the Appalachian trail many years ago, and I know one of his favorite FD meals was spaghetti.  The pasta would have to be cooked in the conventional way first and then FD.  It would be a huge time saver and clean up saver.   t

Kim Arnold wrote:I’ll admit I’m envious of those of you with freeze driers, and very impressed by all the things you’ve preserved! I don’t have the space or $$$ right now, so I’ll keep waiting. But I do have a question - why isn’t freeze-dried pasta a thing?

I like to use freeze dried foods to make quick mixes for soups and simple meals. I would love to include pasta that would rehydrate and be perfectly cooked, but I can’t find anything like that!

I have to carry my drinking/cooking water up three flights of steps - I’m not willing to use it to boil pasta and pour it out. (Yes, I know there are ways to use that water, but I have other ways I like to use it.)

Is freeze-dried pasta a possibility? Has anyone tried it?

 
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Add to all that excellent information:  Some times using oxygen absorbers will cause a bag to deflate SOME, other times it will not be apparent.  

Oxygen absorbers remove the 21% oxygen from the air in the bags. Once the right size [or over sized] oxygen absorber is placed in a bag that's sealed, nothing more need be done, unless you want more insurance and to take up less space.

Like Vickey, I go the overkill route. I buy my absorbers in boxes of 1,000 and over the size required for other than gallon bags. Using more than you need to hurts nothing but your wallet.  THEN I vacuum seal to remove as much air as I can. This results in bags that take up less space and the absorbers remain working far longer, if there were a pin hole in the seal or bag [from the dry contents].

SIDE NOTES:

(1) Do not use oxygen absorbers with desiccant packs. The desiccant packs will reduce the function of the oxygen absorbers.

(2) When I vacuum seal Mylar, it is so smooth the bag closes (seals - temporarily) before I can get the air out.

To solve this problem, I cut the clear bags into 1/2" wide strips, then get rid of the smooth side. I slip a strip of about 1/2" x 2" of the bumpy side of the clear bag into a side of the opening. This allows air to be pulled out after the remainder of the opening sucked close. Then I seal using a flat iron for hair (experiment with temps), rather than my impulse sealer.

(3) If you know you are going to be using the contents of a bag or jar soon, say a week or a month or two down the road, high fat and sugar items are less a problem, when freeze drying.

The main problem with high fat is, it goes rancid, where low fat fruits and veggies do not. However, the higher fat things aren't going to go rancid overnight. So, if you knew you had a campout or hike coming up, you could freeze dry the food to reduce weight, then wander off with confidence.

To give an idea of what a difference freeze drying can make, consider a batch of shrimp.  Several pounds will become so light that a barely perceptible breeze can blow them off the tray, as you carry them back to the house for packaging.  They become like Styrofoam. However, they re-hydrate in mere minutes and, if cooled, are difficult or even impossible to tell from freshly bought.

Vickey McDonald wrote:

Kaarina Kreus wrote:So you can freeze dry, but to get them last a long time you still need to vacuum pack the products?
Can someone please advise.


 
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A recent experience to share:  We just bought a medium Harvest Right freeze dryer, but cancelled the order on the day of pick-up.  Price was great, the unit (per research) is excellent, but upon much further research, it wasn't for us.  We're very glad we did not get it.  Here's why.

First, it's complexity, and we are tyrants when it comes to avoiding complexity.  It never ages well.  We adore our tractor, for example.  It more than pulls its weight around the homestead, but it takes space, maintenance, experience, etc.  The tractor is worth it, though.  The freeze dryer, notsomuch, we think.

And "no" because the niche it fills is too small.  We're only beginning our food preservation journey, but with the combination of (in no particular order) community sharing, fishing, gardening, fermenting, canning, freezing, drying, vacuum sealing,...the space left on the Venn diagram served by the freeze dryer is pretty small, and arguable better satisfied with a few online purchases that require little space and virtually no attention.

I looked at more than a few blogs about this subject, and quickly found that the underlying assumptions for the wonderful, helpful, and knowledgable posters were very often significantly different.  As I am sure you all know, one-size-does-not-fit-all.   I just don't understand folks freeze drying something they can grow, or preserve in a root cellar, can, or ferment.  When we "did the math", the advantages of freeze drying left a small niche, certainly not one justifying the space, $, and complexity.  

That reduced complexity in our lives frees space for further effort in the more classic preservation methods, and that sounds about right to us.

Just a point of view.  I'm sure for many, a freeze dryer is a wonderful tool that works as well as or even better than our tractor.  Good for you!

If anyone knows of a food preservation blog that is not selling something, I would be happy to hear about it.  Diversity is the key in all things, especially food storage.  Any one solution is largely worthless, but many methods embedded to complement e/o, that's what we're looking for.
 
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I had a thought today, based on recent observations, and it may apply here.

I think dill pickles are having a moment right now. I’ve seen recipes for dill pickle popcorn, the store where I work just introduced its version of dill pickle pizza, and I personally made a chocolate chip cookie stuffed with dill pickle slices be ause I saw it on the Internet. (Definitely worth a little dough! I liked the combo very much!)

I’m wondering if anyone has ever freeze dried a dill pickle. Do they keep that intense flavor? How much fun are they to eat when they are crunchy? Amanda how good would pickle dust be on all kinds of things?
 
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Kim Arnold wrote:. . .  Amanda how good would pickle dust be on all kinds of things?



It should say And… not Amanda. Sorry
 
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Kim Arnold wrote:I had a thought today, based on recent observations, and it may apply here.

I think dill pickles are having a moment right now. I’ve seen recipes for dill pickle popcorn, the store where I work just introduced its version of dill pickle pizza, and I personally made a chocolate chip cookie stuffed with dill pickle slices be ause I saw it on the Internet. (Definitely worth a little dough! I liked the combo very much!)

I’m wondering if anyone has ever freeze dried a dill pickle. Do they keep that intense flavor? How much fun are they to eat when they are crunchy? Amanda how good would pickle dust be on all kinds of things?



Freeze dried dill pickles are good.  Great snack.   I found that I needed to rinse them well before hand as they were much to salty otherwise.  

As far as dill pickle dust?  I'm sure that when the pickles are freeze dried there would be no problem running them through a blender to make into "dust".  I like my pickles, but not sure I like them that much.   hahahahaha !!!

Chocolate chip, dill pickle cookie?  I would be willing to try one.
 
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Rick Deckard wrote:We have the large. We got it primarily for selling FD candy at Farmers Markets and events. After an Escape from WA this year, we're going to start producing our own stuff and also maybe for neighbors/church. We also had a glitch off the bat with needing to replace the motherboard but they sent it to us and an easy swap. The horror story we missed out that some have experienced was the system arriving looking like it was air dropped. Great community online with recipes, suggestions and *Don't Do This* (the photos are quite amusing). There a couple 'new kids on the block' trying to get in on the action which happens. Some have improvements and others clearly show they were rushed out the door. Always fun at events hearing people saying "I have a freezer and a dehydrator. I can do that too." Ok... good luck with that.
Best of success!



If you don't mind, how is the Farmers Market candy biz doing for you? Is it doing well enough to recoup the cost or is it more of an add-on, supplemental income thing? My friend has the smaller version and recommended going with a large; I'm just not sure I have enough growing to gain the benefit.



Full disclosure, we live in a small town with a small farmer's market so it's not retirement money. We took the winter to research other Markets and Events and we'll start participating as allows. We're looking at branding and selling throughout the state which is our limit unless we go Commercial. If you're wanting to do some sales or co-op with people on use then medium or large for sure. If it's just going to be you and what you produce (assuming backyard garden) then the small would be great. The other thing you'll need to keep in mind if you do go with the large is it needs a special outlet and a dedicated line. Best of Success!
 
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Dennis Barrow wrote:

Glenn Littman wrote:Can any of you that have a freeze drying system comment on power consumption? I am fairly certain that for those of us who live off-grid it's not an option unless you have humongous battery storage capacity. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think the process is on the order of 24 or more hours and pretty power hungry through the night. If someone knows the wattage demand of their machine and running time that would be helpful to know.



They are power hungry for off grid.  I just saw a post about that a couple days ago on a facebook forum.  The people said that they had to run a generator whenever the sun wasn't shining.  And they had a battery bank that would run their freezer.

Here in Montana where I am it costs me about $3.00 a day to run it, that's for 24 hours, and each batch usually averages 32 hours or so.



I concur. If you're running it in 'Candy Mode' for skittles and such, 2-3 hrs or so. But if you're doing real food - especially with high moisture or density, you are looking at 24hrs on the low side. I've heard stories of 32+ for fruits.
 
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