What is 'Permies' ?

Life is the whole bundle and being bored is part of that. I can escape boredom now, writting but when i was younger and made myself do house work all the time i couldn't. It is a privilege to escape boredom. I don't forget my sisters doing boring jobs and pretend that boredom does not exist.
      It has to be counted or they give you a boring job and then don't recognise their debt and make no effort to recompense you for it in your free timetrying to occasionally make things a little less boring for you.
      Being fair is acknowledging or making others acknowledge all sort of debts. If you can't iron out all injustices at least you can iron out some. Men have a great time going to the pub while women in many parts have less possibilities to join in with others, i propose they don't get away with it Scot free anymore. They even think we would rather be at home because women are different. This different bit annuls the love others as your self bit, it is an Antichrist phrase. agri rose macaskie.

Joel I love that last statement..i could heartily agree.

Rose with my husband haveing recoverd from alcoholism more than 10 years ago, he seldom if ever leaves the house..He has a 26 year head injury and is pretty much housebound other than an occasional shopping trip or dr visit or walk outside and maybe an occasional attempt at a project.

as he chooses to sleep more during the day than at night, i'm forced to be very quiet in the house when he is asleep, which is about 80 % of all day time hours (i sleep at night)..I am generally at home totally alone, i always manage to have housework done..and with rain for nearly 1 1/2 months straight with highs of 40's..i'm not doing a lot outside these days.

generally i don't allow boredom to get to me, but occasionally it does, when it does i try to go outside, even in the rain or snow..and find something to entertain me, a bird, an animal, pulling a few weeds sor something.

        I agree, cure for falling into  depression is not getting to fussy about what entertains you, actually this entertains me emorously i don't know when i have enjoyed anything so much since the first two years after i left england, it is strange i thought peòple had to be fisically present to provide company and i have known lots of physically present people who don't give any company at all and now i find i realy enjoy this sort of company through letters things aren't as I thought they were.
    i used to be so useless at house work that i think it filled lots more of my day than it should have, i thought you always had to clean under everything and polish twice a week and such, i did not manage it but trying kept me busyand as the house has these old floors it is the same washing them as leaving them dirty they look the same, Susan Munroe says she does not have house work anywhere on her list i think that is more or less my situation now thank heavens.
    I hated house work, some people don't mind it according to them. It is important when it comes to sharing to give credit to those who do the boring, it is all very well to say you are all right as a house wife, yes because i have stopped trying to be a house wife,  it is really tough being one, it would be really tough again if i went back to it . Though i might not be complaining. the house seems to look about the same whether i do it or not. People who have boring jobs just have it boring and that is tough psycologically and society should recognise it, the men who work in interesting jobs should recognise it. The rich who then say they wont give money to anyone who has not earned it, what do they call earning it? They don't want the people who do the boring jobs to get any more than a pittance.  Nasty lot.
      Its rather cool your husband being awake all night it means you don't have to look after him, i thought he might need a lot of attention. My husband is a compulsive lier he is like david copperfeild a magician at getting all the credit and doing hardly anything he has started to work a bit now in th ehouse or grden but he never ever used to, i wonder if he is the same at the office gets others to do things. He does not care if he takes one friend off you doing you down or the lot i thiink he probably crows over it i have heard his mother crow ovr gettign totaly the better of another type she  thought she was somethign but look she is nothing i am totaly the popular one, or look what a real ace i am i have got them all. They are a pitiless lot his family . One of a reason he gets believed is because has a long face another one is he starts to wrap you up long before you even thought you were being done for.
      I am done for with him, i don't stand a chance socially and never had and he ridiculises my work abilities,  he even manages to make it look as if he did house work, even when he never lifted a fingure, to the point that if i was cooking and looking after the baby, when my daughter was a baby, i had to run to the living room and answer the phone though he was in the next door room, he would just shout and i had to run down the passage and answer the phone for him. Really he treats me as a servant but some how carries it off by looking as if it is shyness that makes him silent not aloofness. He is scarey sort of long term scary, without feeling much fright at any one moment. agri rose macaskie,
     

joel hollingsworth, The game of talk is the game i play. I would call myself an apologists, maybe not a good one but an apologist. I walk the walk i do the apologising i don't just say i do it and it takes a fair amount of work. Really a lot it seems to me. 
      It was necesary to prove organic or permaculture ideas could work and it goes on being necesary  but Sepp Holzer has a thriving farm, so much so that modern austrian farmers who are failing in old fashioned farming are turning to him. Geoff Lawton has greened the desert, Roosevelts berms and swales work, as probably are Bill Mollisons, it must be some time now since he put them in. Now it is making sure people know the alternatives. It is stopping the big companies from lying about their stuff and getting some sort of equilibrium into things, a bit of chemicals and better watering and much more  organic matter in the soil to hold on to rain water and less erosion and no more salting up of soils.
  In my garden I dont have a food forest but i have improved the soil, i also have a lot of fruit trees. i post a photo of th ebottom of my garden and the bit on the other side a semi circle with small trees in it the bit hta someon eburnt with herbicides. th efoto is taken from above on top of the slope in front of the back of the house. agri rose macaskie.