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Starting seeds for GAMCOD

 
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I assume plastic pots are not appropriate.
Self made paper pots? If made from craft paper?

I assume soiless seedstarter is out.
Wood tray with garden soil? Or must it be the same unimproved dirt?
Of course, this would need to be done outside to have the sun control the fuzzy mold that murderes seedlings. Easy and cheap negates the greenhouse. Can the seedlings be cared for away from the 200 square feet?

And an official Permies wiki thread here says "approved: seeds (non GMO)"
 
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If nothing else, planning for GAMCOD has really got me thinking about stuff. I normally start in plastic 1020 trays in a nylon tent under growlights and keep things watered with a plastic can. LOL...what am I even doing?!?
 
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I do all my seed starts in wooden flats.
One by three inch lumber nailed together with quarter inch hardware cloth on the bottom.  Sometimes a bit of screen molding added to the bottom over the edge of the wire.

Potting mix varies depending on what I have on hand...lately old stump leavings and some sandy loam with more sharp sand added...pretty heavy.

The wooden  flats last years....BUT, I make them to fit upcycled (downcycled?)plastic trays so that I can water from the bottom.  Have found some deep enough aluminum lately but it's rare.

Most seedlings can go from the flat straight to the garden although I pot up many in the (plastic) pots I've been given.

I like this kind of thinking.....good to always try for 'better'
 
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This will definitely effect the kinds of plants I select. Direct seeding might be advantageous for this.

Is peat a no-no? I have a bunch of coir pots as well...
 
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I was thinking little glass jars out of my recycling. Not great drainage but I don't plant on starting much indoors.
 
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Ooooh! I could make those out of pallet wood, to fit 1/2 sheet baking pans I've put off that I want for dehydrating fruit. I'd still prefer to do paper pots...

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plastic allowed, but discouraged.

paper is about as bad as plastic.

starting seeds directly (rather than transplanting) is encouraged.  Using a glass cloche is encouraged.  

Getting the most calories has the most weight.  Getting the most calories with less plastic/toxins/time than others is a huge win.

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