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paul wheaton
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This has come up about a dozen times for permies.com. It is usually brought up when somebody posts something outside of my publishing standards.

I need to point out that if I delete everything a person posts to permies.com, that is NOT a violation of free speech. From your computer you can still yell out "I like pie!" and you can go to the laundromat and yell it. And to the grocery store. And a public street corner.

What we have here at permies.com is "freedom of the press". And freedom of the press belongs to those that own one. I own this one. And I choose to publish only those things that fit within my publishing standards.

So, this is censorship. But it is not a violation of free speech.

 
paul wheaton
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John Elliott
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I understand that civics is not taught in schools much these days. That might explain why you have to point this out to people.
 
Sam Barber
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I really don't think people have a lot to complain about If they want a proverbial soap box to stand on they could spend 30 mins online and setup a free blog themselves!
 
John Polk
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Through the years, I have sent several "Letters to the editor".
Some got published, but the majority never got published.

Were my 'rights' restricted? No.
I got to say what I wanted to say.
The editor got to publish what he wanted to publish.

 
Shane McKee
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Yep, it's weird - almost as if the effort you (Paul) put into this site places a moral imperative on YOU to allow any troll jackass to say whatever the heck they want. Heck, while you're at it, you really should let them come and harangue you at your dinner table - not to do so would be violating their free speech. I had a small post deleted from this site a while back; I think what I said was said in humility and with honesty, but I recognise some people might not have liked the content, so a steward removed it. That is OK - I respect that decision on Permies, and wow - I can go over to my OWN blog (Answersingenes.blogspot.com if you're interested) and say whatever the heck I want! Free speech wins!

Paul, keep doing what you're doing. I'll not always agree (and such is the nature of us having our own brains), but this is a fantastic site full of fantastic info, and you've done an outstanding job. Can't wait to hear what the warm days of spring tempt out of the awakening Missoula earth.
 
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A wise man once told me to never argue with people who buy their ink (electrons ) in 55 gal. drums........I don't understand why so many don't understand "Paul's house = Paul's rules"
 
Landon Sunrich
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John Elliott wrote:I understand that civics is not taught in schools much these days. That might explain why you have to point this out to people.


I went to public school my entire life and there was never so much as a quarter long lesson on civics. I took every history and social science course my school offered including the Advanced Placement ones. No civics. Kinda suspect in my opinion.

Anyhow I don't mean to tank the topic.

I heartily suggest that everyone who feels their free speech is being repressed on this forum go assemble in public to exercise their free speech and espouse their thoughts on permaculture in a truly public setting where their rights shall remain inviolate. I can't remember the last time I saw anyone other than myself standing on the corner talking to anyone who would listen about permaculture.
 
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