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I bought this at a thrift store for $5.00, didn't open it, just assumed that what I can see is enough to be able to use it somehow.
The website for it WinnerWell FoldFast Oven

Folded up like this is how I saw it. The strap comes with it when new.



When unfolded and locked together it looks like this!



Racks inside...



The bottom is basically a screen to let it heat from any source



REALLY NEAT CRITTER!! The site shows it on a wood burning stove, but I can see it on a solar collector like is used for dehydrators, or a hot motor (lunch cooking on the tractor while I work?!) or waste heat off anything. I'm fascinated. Definitely worth $5.00 to me!!  :D

I'm also puzzled... there's one thing in it I cant figure out....
On the bottom inside there's a carefully bent metal bar, that does nothing I can figure out.
It flips this way



It flips the other way



It doesn't reach either rack, and it won't stand up alone, I held it up for this pic



It comes out easily, sitting on my chair...



Doesn't hold the screen in, or lift it out, WHAT IS IT FOR?




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If you raise it & add the top rack do the projections fit through the rack? If so, I think it might be to stabilize the rack for heavy loads.

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Mike Barkley wrote:If you raise it & add the top rack do the projections fit through the rack? If so, I think it might be to stabilize the rack for heavy loads.


Nope! That was my second guess, first guess was screen removal.
I'm puzzled...  :D

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That looks way better quality than the "campfire" oven we bought years ago.

Yes, the wire racks falling out was a major problem in ours, so is there are other spots that bent wire could clip in to stabilize the shape of the oven, or keep a rack from falling out? If it comes out of the current spot easily, maybe that's just its "storage location'.

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Jay Angler wrote:That looks way better quality than the "campfire" oven we bought years ago.

Yes, the wire racks falling out was a major problem in ours, so is there are other spots that bent wire could clip in to stabilize the shape of the oven, or keep a rack from falling out? If it comes out of the current spot easily, maybe that's just its "storage location'.



Nope. No other places it fits. And the way this is built, it's difficult to get the racks in, I put them in as I assembled it, saw a video a guy worked them into it, but I don't know how, or why he'd bother, they go in when assembling easily. They are not going anywhere.
The sidewalls etc all clip together tightly, once it's hooked I would not blink at putting a bowl of wet food on a rack, carrying it around and putting it down. It's not coming apart. It's a well done beastie :D  I like it!

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SCORE!

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R Scott wrote:SCORE!


DEFINITELY!!   :D

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When the bent bar is in its bracket, if you lift up on the middle of it, what gets lifted? Just the screen? The whole oven? Something else?
 
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Maybe there are other pieces missing that need it - like a rotisserie?

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Christopher Weeks wrote:When the bent bar is in its bracket, if you lift up on the middle of it, what gets lifted? Just the screen? The whole oven? Something else?


The whole oven, until it pops out (and gets put on my chair for pictures!)  Screen stays put, it has it's own clips. Bar doesn't seem to relate to it.

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Carla Burke wrote:Maybe there are other pieces missing that need it - like a rotisserie?


I don't know. There is nothing on their website about it, the guy who's video I watched unboxed it and never said a word about it, and had no accessories I am missing. He had the newer model, thermometer on top instead of in the door, all else looks the exact same, down to the velcro strap.

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The (current) manual doesn't say anything about it: https://www.winnerwell.com/pages/manual-stove-accessories
 
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From zooming in on the lower right picture here: https://www.canvastentshop.co.uk/fastfold-oven/ it looks like it's meant to hold the screen down.
 
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If things get rough it can always be used for drying wet socks. Stuff one into an edge to hold it vertical & drape the others across the top. Problem solved:)

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Christopher Weeks wrote:From zooming in on the lower right picture here: https://www.canvastentshop.co.uk/fastfold-oven/ it looks like it's meant to hold the screen down.


That shot looks exactly like my pic, except it's a not used oven.  
It doesn't hold the screen. It's loose, and only sits barely on the screen. And only on one side at a time. And the screen has good clips. If that's what it's for, it's useless, it's not doing it.
Unless it's doing something really weird with that screen, holding it upward at some times or something, I can't imagine that's it.

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In the picture that I'm referencing, the screen is held in by fixed brackets along one side and pressed down by that bar on the other. There are three pegs coming out from the one side. Can you make the bendy bar go under them? that looks like the way to lock the screen down.

 
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From the looks of that picture I think Christopher is right.

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My friends are wanting me to test the oven. I have no urge to do wood heat right now for a lot of reasons. I haven't got a decent solar hook up I could use without a ton of work.
I do have a catalytic heater with a flat top that I used to cook on a lot when I lived in a van. That might work.
Not running equipment for a while still. I was bummed when I tested it and it's not magnetic. I wanted bad to magnet it to my mower or tractor while it's working to use the waste heat. That would have been the easiest way to make it stay still on a lot of things. I'm debating epoxying metal straps to it that magnets do like, (metal lumber straps, fun things to play with!) then I can magnet it places if I want to.

My head went off on a tangent, what this thing feels like, in a way, is the EZ Bake Oven I had as a kid. It cooks with a light bulb. Which has led to me eyeing lights in the house...  I have some floodlights....

I'll probably drop it on the catalytic one of these days to test it.

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Pearl Sutton wrote: I wanted bad to magnet it to my mower or tractor while it's working to use the waste heat. That would have been the easiest way to make it stay still on a lot of things.  

Lee Valley sells these little cups that you use a flat-head screw or bolt in to hold a magnet. Often used to keep doors closed for instance.
https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/hardware/rare-earth-magnets/magnets/disc/58750-rare-earth-magnet-cup-and-washer-sets

Not sure how you would fake the concept, but it worked to hold Hubby's cup-holder to our ride on mower for years until he hit a chicken trap and the cup holder had an unfortunate run-in with the mower blades.

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You definately scored big with that oven.
My Mother had one like that in the late 60's early 70's when she had her back packing business in the Bob Marshall Wilderness area.  
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It looks like it could make a great solar cooker or hot solar drier.   Direct the light in through the screen from the bottom and insulate the sides.    What is the screen made of?  Just fine wire mesh?   Thanks,   Brian
 
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