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Richard Hauser wrote:
I was thinking of doing this with Black Locust as it is always claimed to grow fast, burn clean, hot and coppices well.
Is there a better choice?
Due to the laziness, I also didn't want to remove the bark. Will this cause a problem for drying?
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Tristan Vitali wrote:
BTW, I've heard oak is a very difficult coppice - probably not the best idea. They take just short of forever to put on any decent size and they definitely don't like to pop back from the stumps after a cut. I'd recommend not cutting down your 6 generation oak tree hoping to get good coppice.
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Cj Verde wrote:
Tristan Vitali wrote:
BTW, I've heard oak is a very difficult coppice - probably not the best idea. They take just short of forever to put on any decent size and they definitely don't like to pop back from the stumps after a cut. I'd recommend not cutting down your 6 generation oak tree hoping to get good coppice.
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Victor Johanson wrote:There is a difference between topping and pollarding. Proper pollarding is initiated when the tree is young and respects the tree's innate defense boundaries; it is a legitimate and longstanding arborist practice which actually extends logevity. Most of what's termed pollarding these days is just whacking the top off mature trees, and has been termed "tree mutilation" by tree guru Alex Shigo.
The practice of collecting twigs and leaves for
fodder for domestic animals is a very old form for
fodder harvesting. Leaf fodder can be collected
efficiently with small iron tools and the practice has
a history at least back to the Iron Age. Almost all
species of deciduous trees were used for animal
fodder, also some conifers. Although the harvesting
of trees for collecting fodder was widely practised
all over Norway, the choice of species, techniques
and utilization varied from area to area, as did the
names given to tree management.
Pollarding (“styving”) refers to the process of
topping trees, i.e. cutting back branches at a height
of 2-3 m, above reach of grazing animals. Lopping
(“lauving”) is the actual fodder-collecting.
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Cj Verde wrote:
Pollarding is a very old technique going back to at least the Iron age:
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Victor Johanson wrote:"Proper pollarding is initiated when the tree is young...
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allen lumley wrote:- O. K. : back on the original topic, Can someone recommend a listing of the generally correct times of the year for coppicing and pollarding ?
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Cj Verde wrote:
Victor Johanson wrote:"Proper pollarding is initiated when the tree is young...
I wonder about the definition of young. Kind of a relative thing. A young fast growing tree will be quite different from a young slow growing tree.
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allen lumley wrote:
2nd, it has been an established wood lot practice used for years in some of the Northeast to mark trees in the wood lot/sugar bush before fly
mosquito season, and then to girdle those trees meant for firewood, and allow the opening buds on the tree to dry out the tree. The trees were
then cut down and bucked up in the fall !
I assume from my exposure to this practice that this is counter productive to good Coppicing / Pollarding practices !? Big AL
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Richard Hauser wrote:This is both a RMH and a tree growing question, so excuse me if it is filed incorrectly.
RMH are efficient but still need fuel and I am lazy.
To avoid all that annoying sawing and splitting, I would it be possible to cut many .75" sprouts with a clipper, then dry and burn them whole.
With the way RMHs gravity feed, what would the best length and width of fuel be? Could you burn yard long twigs?
I was thinking of doing this with Black Locust as it is always claimed to grow fast, burn clean, hot and coppices well.
Is there a better choice?
Due to the laziness, I also didn't want to remove the bark. Will this cause a problem for drying?
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