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Paul: That's actually very helpful, because I'd thought he meant the spoon needed to be more capacious. It's still a bogus flex on authority, though, because a spoon's a spoon, regardless of whether or not it matches anybody's spoon-related aesthetic preferences. Cf. the extra-ugly bird houses that've passed muster! Regardless, I had thought about sanding the thing down, so I might streamline the handle and see what happens. So, thanks!

Rebekah: Thanks for that -- I appreciate it. Ultimately, it is what it is, right? If I wanted to make spoons for my own sake, I could just do that, but for whatever reason, I've decided to put my spoon forward for approval by somebody else. Enter, politics! I was thinking about leaving the spoon altogether for a while [Actually, I was thinking about taking a photo of it lying next to the 'spoon' and 'tyranny' entries in an illustrated dictionary, then posting the photo on the spoon thread and linking to it in my signature... but I prolly won't! xD] but I'll re-do the handle and see what happens.

I notice your BB number just took a leap -- well done, good going! Keep it up!

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Yesterday was a BIG day for me! Several bb submissions of mine were approved, so I was able to submit two full badges 😁 some of the badges had several rejected bbs. I've been working on them for over a year!! So excited to now have the community badge and the tool care badge. OH YEAH!

For my bb today, I'm working on two coat hooks from tree branches, from the round wood badge. It's a small, sweet, simple bb because yesterday I used a full-size axe for the first time on the 3 log bench bb, and DUDE. I am so sore! 🤭 so it's a light day today.

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Well done on getting the badges finished! Well-earned, and a big relief, no doubt.

I have my eye on that BB, too. Have spent the evening sanding my spoon, though. Lemme upload a pic... Wish I could upload the feeling of it -- it's so smooth!

Axes, eh? The trick is to let the weight of the axe do the work. Not sure you should be sore from it, but then it was your first time, and practice makes perfect.

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Rebekah -- I finally watched those videos on soapmaking! I'd thought the iron pot was part of the chemical reaction -- the fact that it isn't makes things simpler. I have some hardwood twigs, olive oil and salt. And a blowtorch and incinerator. I'm just about ready to go! xD

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That's awesome, Jojo!! I like your spoon 😉 it looks more measuring spoon-y now. I'll bet it's more delightful to eat with, if you were going for that.

And the soap! What a cool project 😎 keep doing bad ass stuff, my friend! What kind of soap will you make? Flavors and all that.

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Yesterday I finished a lovely compound mallet. It's my first wood working project that I am very proud of! I would show it to a seasoned wood worker and not feel like it's a dinky first-timer project. My husband even thought it was cool enough to ask me to make a bigger one for him! I'm getting better 😄

I've now put in several hewing sessions. I now have like 10 hours worth of work into the 3 log bench. I don't know if I am so slow because the wood is still too wet, because I suck at wielding an axe, because I picked a log that's too big and I only have simple tools, or because the inside of my log was hollow and dead and that's affecting my work🤷‍♀️ it still needs another 2 hours or so, so no bb today.

The bench to is also still very rough. Splinter-y looking. Idk if anyone will look at it and actually want to take a seat. Any ideas how to smooth it with hand tools? I don't have very many. I may need a break from this project.

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Tomorrow, I plan to peel 2 logs. Or 20 actually. But the bb is for 2.

I also would like to spruce up the hand auger drill bit I borrowed to make my compound mallet. It's a lovely antique tool that got a little rust on it. Before I give it back, I hope to give some love to say thanks to the lender. This is also a straw badge bb (sharpen a drill bit)

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So! I found out the "axe" I've been using on my 3 log bench is actually a maul. No wonder I'm hacking and hacking and not much is happening!!! By now, all I have left is hatchet work. So I will finish the whole thing without an axe. Sheeeeesh! That's why I hurt. 4 swings for the effect of one axe swing.

In other news, I peeled 1 log yesterday for the woodland badge. The bb is for 2 logs, so hopefully I finish that soon. I just only had 1 hour for that bb at that time.

My goal was 1 bb a day. I'm still turning in bbs. Natural medicine bbs and 2nd level bbs, as I need to do those activities in everyday life. But not one of the original 33 I need for PEP1. That bothers me. But I guess this was just an experiment to see if I could actually do PEP1 by July 1st. As it is, it may take me all the way through July. But as I keep focusing on PEP, I may finish PEP 2 sooner than I thought. At least some straw badges.

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Rebekah, I thought a maul was a kind of mallet. What is it, actually?

Re. soap, I hadn't thought of flavours/scents, but I was wondering if I could make exfoliating soap by adding baking soda, or whether it would react with the other ingredients. Any thoughts on this?

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I spent a wonderful weekend in Pony, MT, at a Foraging class put on by Tom Elpel, the author of Botany In A Day. I have several foraging bbs to turn in!! Once again, these aren't part of the 19 bbs I have left for PEP1.
I'm ready to get back to those bbs tomorrow 🙂 starting with junkpoles in woodland care.

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Hey Jojo! A maul, as I understand it now, it not nearly as pointy as an axe. It does have an edge, but the cutting angle is more obtuse, on purpose; the better to prise open the log a person is trying to split. The other end is a mallet end for driving a Wedge or axe deeper.

Soap! My first thought is that baking powder or soda would mess with the pH and therefore the solidification of the soap. I've used oatmeal and cornmeal before. I've seen apricot kernels and charcoal and pumpkin seedss and sand used for exfoliation. 😁 how is your bb-quest going??

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People!!! I finally finished this 3 log bench! It took me about 12 hours. I thought it was about 8 feet long, 10 inch diameter. WRONG! I measured it today, and it's about 9 feet long, 16 inches in diameter at the narrow end. Thing is a BEAST! It took 5 of us to move it into place. This is a big bb. I learned a lot! But it's a relief to have it done.

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Rebekah Harmon wrote:Hey Jojo! A maul, as I understand it now, it not nearly as pointy as an axe. It does have an edge, but the cutting angle is more obtuse, on purpose; the better to prise open the log a person is trying to split. The other end is a mallet end for driving a Wedge or axe deeper.

Soap! My first thought is that baking powder or soda would mess with the pH and therefore the solidification of the soap. I've used oatmeal and cornmeal before. I've seen apricot kernels and charcoal and pumpkin seedss and sand used for exfoliation. 😁 how is your bb-quest going??

So, as maul is a 2-in-1 deal? Will definitely remember not to try to chop wood with one! xD

Well done on your bench! 10/10 would perch. :o)

I petered out at the end. I have about 5BBs on the go, and I uploaded one today to make 30, but there's always a problem. I didn't take the right photos, or I missed another admin detail, or did things in the wrong order. The spoon thing's stuck in my craw. I made a spoon, so how come it didn't pass? Some people verifying BBs are happy to fail people for not sticking to the letter of a task, but where's the recourse for a questionable decision that likewise doesn't stay within the limits of the task? Really not amused, and fully aware how much easier it would be to pretend, but I'm all out of enthusiasm for that kind of thing. :oP

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Yep, Jojo, I totally get that. I have run out of enthusiasm more than one time! ;)

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Today I cut down a live tree with a bow saw. My bow saw curves as it cuts. Anyone know why that happens?? lol. still a bb.

Problem: I noticed I won't be able to finish the woodland care badge at home. The junkpole fence section is just not possible for me, in the sage-brush dessert, where getting all 10 junkpoles has taken me 3 visits to other people's houses. I counted 96 junkpoles in one 12 foot section of junkpole fence. There's no way I'll find that many junkpoles unless I go up into the hills with a firewood permit and a trailer. Since I don't have those resources right now, nor anytime soon, this badge won't help me finish PEP1.

So then the next problem is completing badges I'm a LONG ways away from, like plumbing, electricity, metalworking (a completely new skill to me) earthworks (don't have access to a loader) and rocket (which also uses a lot of rocket equipment I do not have access to.)
That leaves commerce. I tried turning in agile work of selling my wildcrafting remedies online, but that was rejected. I thought it fit in with the ideas listed in the agile work definition thread. Regardless, I need an idea of what kind of labor to do online. I could teach a class over zoom? What kind of class would people care to take? I've taught hundreds of essential oil classes over the years...maybe an herbal medicine class?

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Reflections on 30 bbs in one month.....

So I turned in about 40 bbs during June. My conclusion is that this volume of bbs is possible. I still maintained normal life. However, achieving very specific bbs is more challenging.

I needed 30 specific bbs to finish PEP1. Organizing off-property help, like asking your neighbor to let you make 3 scoops with their loader, or cut down their trees, or dig up some of their rhubarb crown, takes planning that doesn't always fit into a short timeframe. I still have about 15 of those June-goal bbs left to do. (5 of them from a new badge I hadn't been counting on working on, because I realized I cannot finish the woodland care badge this month.) But it's all good, because I'll need all those bbs for PEP2.

I've now made plans for the remaining 15 bbs. I should finish in 10 days. So it took me 6 weeks to do the planned 30 bbs. About 5 a week. Maybe a single person, or somebody without 6 kids could out-pace me. Or plan better than I. But that's a good speed for me. I'll plan on this pace in the future.

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Well you kicked my butt, Rebekah! I only turned in 11 BBs the whole month, although, as I mentioned, I have a few others underway.

I think, ironically, it's the fact that you have a busy life in general that means you get so many BBs done. They say, if you want something done, give it to a busy person. It's a way of life. I have nothing but time and look at the difference in our achievements!

Thanks for setting up this thread, though. I wouldn't have done half as much had you not done so.

Good luck with your remaining BBs.

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Thanks for the company, Jojo!! 🥰

I have been working in my future outdoor bathroom for the last 2 days. A pee spot (bb) a mulch pit for my shower (bb) and leveling my skidable outhouse. (Bb)

It's not finished yet, but so cute!

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Today I feel empowered! I was FINALLY able to borrow the excavator I've been asking about. Nobody wanted to use it over Independence Day weekend. Go figure?!

So I've been happily at work on 2 hugel beds, a 6 footer for a sand bb, and a 12 footer for a straw bb. While my friends are getting wasted and playing with fireworks, I'm planting nitrogen fixers and comfrey that will feed my family for years to come. I'm listening to red rockets bursting and shoveling life-giving rabbit manure, teeming with worms and other biota onto a tower of wind-blocking, water soaking cottonwood. The tree of life!

It's a big day for me! I've been hard at work for a few months now, transforming my yard, my priorities, my whole life up the eco scale. But progress is hard to see! It's sometimes two steps forward, one step back. Today, I felt like many pieces fell into place. I could see the differences adding up. I am becoming the permie I want to be. The synchronicity is astounding that it came to a peak today, on Independence Day.

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Finally. Two hugelbeds. 2 bbs. Done. What an adventure!!!

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Yesterday, I turned in several bbs that I've been working on. Today's bb is a support scaffolding for my new hugelbeds.

I'm closing in on PEP1! I've only got 9 more bbs to go, if all of them get approved. Under 10! Under 10! Can I do all of them before I leave to the SKIP event???

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Today I am working on 2 bbs that will finish my natural building badge and my homesteading badge.
Install a fire extinguisher and a rock foundation.

I made a critical decision to not push hard and finish PEP 1 before I leave for Montana this week. One reason is my hugelbed bbs haven't been approved. Kinda worried about that. Those have been the most labor-intensive bbs yet, with the gathering, harvesting, limbing, building, and mulching.

Another reason is I've got several other projects I'm trying to finish up, and I need to sharpen tools, ect. That means I'll be earning level 2 (straw) bbs, so still working towards the end goal, but not the original 33 bbs for PEP1.

Finally, there are some badges I can easily finish at wheaton labs which are very difficult to do here. Like junkpole fence or willow feeder can moving.

Hopefully, I'll be able to report completion of PEP1 very soon.

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All my homestead bbs were approved! So I get to turn in the homestead badge today! :D

I also have bbs waiting for approval to complete the round wood woodworking badge and natural building badges.
My hugelkultur bb was flagged as not meeting requirements. If I can get some help to take a more well-balance set of measuring pictures for the bed, I can finish the gardening badge.
That will bring my total to 14 badges.

When I'm at wheaton labs (in two days!) I'll finish the woodland care, greywater, and hopefully also the rocket and metalworking badges. That will, for sure, take me to PEP1. I will also earn several bbs towards PEP 2 that I cannot earn at home. So cheer for me! PEP1 is just around the corner!

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Hip, hip, hooray!

Great progress, Rebekah -- well done for sticking with it.

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Hey everyone! I've been working on and facilitating bbs at the SKIP event at wheaton labs. Last week, I finished the rest of the willow feeder and greywater bbs. Now to turn them in and submit the badge!
Yesterday, I used a rocket oven for sand and straw level bbs.
For the rest of the week, I'll be working on the metalworking badge, and hopefully finish the rocket bbs.

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Looking back over the last 2 weeks of SKIPping at wheaton labs. I've turned in 21 bbs! I've made great memories with my kids. I finished the rocket and greywater badges.
The welding bbs didn't get finished. But I am only 1 more bb away from the woodland care badge.
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I turned in the last bb for my 16th badge. When all those bbs and badges get approved, I'll be PEP 1 BABY!!
My fav. Highlight of the trip was coaching my daughter to earn her first 10 bbs. Yay!
We also enjoyed playing at the state park, Frenchtown Pond a short drive away, and finding all the local parks.

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Actually, it turns out that an old bb, which I thought I had resolved, is still an edge case bb. Jeff pointed out that I'll need to fix this bb before I can earn the Rocket badge and therefore the PEP1 certification. So it's on my list of things to do soon.
If I remember correctly, this bb getting rejected was one of the painful reasons I quit doing bbs a year ago. I had just learned about bbv points, and that I had like 36 negative bbv points, and this bb got a negative 2 point rejection cost. That took all the wind out of my sails!
It's been a pretty emoional toll to see this badge still needs work currently, as well. Hopefully, I can re-new some bb vigor and try again. Just sucks that I'm still not there.

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It looks like you’ve definitely made up for all the negatives and are now on the green side of BBVs

I really appreciate you approving mine, especially the encouraging comments. And I love seeing your energy through all your own submissions!

I know you can earn that badge, you clearly had the skill to accomplish the task before, only need a few more pictures this time :)

Wishing you lots of luck and tons of wind in your sails!

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SO CLOSE to PEP1 and an impressive amount of BBs done! It's been inspirational to see your journey, from the difficulties of rejected and edge case BBs to all that you've learned and accomplished so far. I hope you'll continue!

(Reminder to myself) God didn't say, "well said, well planned, and well thought out." He said, "well done."
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Thank you, you two! I didn't know folks were paying attention to this journey of mine. I really appreciate your encouragement! I am reporting that I did get that Dakota stove bb done and turned in 😀 Thanks, Jeff, for helping me notice that bb before I went to turn in the whole rocket badge and have a bad day.

I'll be taking a couple weeks to potty train my toddler and it may be a little while before I crack on! I do have plans to finish other badges in the near future. Commerce, woodland care, electricity and earthworks are close. The path to PEP2 is mapped out, and I believe I can hit it by the end of the year.

Maybe I'll start a new thread for PEP2? Idk! I'd love to keep seeing others reaching for PEP1 posting here.

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PEP1. Done. Everything is achieved and verified.

And. My toddler peed in the toilet 6 times yesterday! 😆

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Yayyy!! Double congrats 🥳

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I just got done listening to the latest podcast, all about the SKIP event, https://permies.com/wiki/261596/Podcast-SKIP-Event

Rebekah, I heard you say you’d consider hosting a bb event, which is super cool!
As a fellow Idahomie, I’d be really interested in that.
What sorts of things would you want to do?

You clearly have a household to manage and badges of your own to earn, what would make it worth it to you?

I seem to remember you mentioning heating with wood, I haven’t earned my deadwood firewood bb yet… my labor, plus coin, you keep the finished product?

How could we make an event where everyone, including members of your family who might not participate, can walk away winners?

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Hmmm! I was wondering who would be interested! I'll post this in the bb events forum too.
Here's the bbs I would feel great about hosting:
Animal badge, (like butchering or other livestock stuff)
A few woodland care things, (possibly that firewood bb, Clay, if I organize all my neighbors with dead trees!)
Natural medicine badge,
Foraging badge,
Some homestead bbs,
Some natural building bbs,
Roundwood badge,
Dimensional lumber,
Food prep and preservation,
Textiles,
Community badges
And metalworking bbs.
Even hide tanning for oddball bbs.
Some gardening bbs,
Tool care for sure,
If I get a RMH built in my greenhouse and a rocket stove built in my backyard, we could do several rocket bbs!

Which of these are useful to ya?

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Clay McGowen

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Well it took me far too long to create a spreadsheet with the info, but I've finally knocked that out and cross referenced with your list. It looks like I'm 92bbs away from getting all my sand badges (sure yeah PEP1 is only 16, but I want to find my Otis so PEP2 is on the horizon).
Mostly focusing on Sand for the moment...

Woodland:

Stack Dead Standing Firewood

Natural Building:

Adobe Bricks

White Wash

Roundwood:

Club Mallet

Compound Mallet

Spoon

Hugel Scaffold

three log bench

Pick 1/5 (Dry Peg Green Wood)

Tool Care:

Sharpen Knife (particularly technique)

Sharpen Chainsaw

Foraging:

Tea List

Dish List

4lbs Seed Balls

Community :

Little Free Library

Free/Honor Food Stand

Textiles:

Make Pillow

Make Twine

Weave Basket

knit/crochet hotpad/dishcloth

Metal work:

Kindling Cracker

RMH Scoop

Homestead:

Sand Prime Paint rusty patch

Rock jack

Natural Medicine :

on Saturday my vinegar and tinctures will be done, so hoping to submit for sand!

I'd like to do more from the dry list

I'd love to learn what plants could help with Quinn List items

The above lists are made up of things I think might be fun and reasonable to do, but I lack a significant number of "adjacent" bbs in those same spaces - if I picked baddies, I'm open to switching, and what other folks might want from a bb event.

I'm also planning to head back to Wheaton Labs over Labor Day weekend and knock out a few more!

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Well done, Rebekah -- you smashed it! =oD

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