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John Saltveit wrote:Levente-
I don't think you understood my post.
Levente wrote, "Why do you think that vegan permaculture would want to exclude earthworms or microbes?"
Why do you think that I believe that vegans want to exclude earthworms and microbes in vegan permaculture? I was talking about what you can exclude, not that it was required. Animals come onto the land naturally. If you're going to make an effort to exclude them, there are ways to do it. It becomes much more difficult in some circumstances, like removing all the worms and microbes, which are in fact animals.
I understand that Helen Atthowe has a particular type of permaculture that she likes to espouse that is vegan. She doesn't necessarily speak for all vegans. My wife is a vegan and wouldn't have a problem with animal manure being in the soil if the animal was respected for itself rather than used as a vehicle for manure. Vegans are not a block of people that have to obey Helen Atthowe. Some do , some don't.
John S
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Idle dreamer
This is all just my opinion based on a flawed memory
Ben Stallings wrote:Dr. Elaine Ingham makes a strong assertion...that soil health can be established and maintained at peak productivity using only soil life, no livestock and no manure...She may be somewhat on the fringe for making such claims. I recently attended a conference keynoted by Dr. Christine Jones [who] instead advocates the use of livestock grazing to restore soil health, in line with Alan Savory and the rest.
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Meli Mot wrote:I love the idea of a vegan permaculture food forest! I don't see how to get enough protein though. I live in hardiness zone 5b. I used a nutrition tracker to input walnuts and hazelnuts, which grow in my area, but that only came to 20% of daily protein needs. Fruit adds very little protein. Perhaps Siberian pea, but apparently that has dangerous toxins. I will keep researching though!
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