Jamie Chevalier wrote:Yes, there is a new testing protocol that has brought the price way down. I have not submitted samples to different labs to see how accurate it is--the only way to find out.
This makes me even more curious why Baker Creek, which pours so much money into color printing, events, concerts, and costumes, still has no mention of testing for GMO contamination. All you see are claims of "pure" seed--which has no legal meaning whatsoever. Contrast this with Uprising Seeds policy of testing every batch of corn and discarding any that do not come back as 0% comtamination. Or with FedCo's policy of testing. Or with all the companies that identify which seeds are certified Organic, which at least theoretically excludes GMOs.
Hmm... The 2018 catalog, which arrived yesterday, says in bold letters underneath the introductory info on corn: "GMO TESTED: Genetically Modified Organisms were NOT found in any of the corn varieties listed in our catalog." This is not the first time I've seen this mentioned. Indeed, a couple years ago they had a statement that they had reduced their corn offerings for that year, because they were unable to source certain varieties that tested clean. Seems like sufficient mention of testing to me.
They also mention that the sugar beet seed they sell is GMO-free. Soybeans (edamame) too.
I'm in Canada and use my own seed whenever possible. For unusual herbs I buy from Richters and have had good service from them. For veggies that I don't save seed from (carrots, beets, cabbage, etc) I buy from West Coast Seeds or Veseys (East Coast). Both have given good service - haven't had to complain. I also get seeds from friends.
Christina Fletcher wrote:I'm going to be working on creating threads for our favorite seed, plant and tree sources. It would be most helpful if you chimed in and shared your favorites and why.
Is there a specific item you like to get from that source?
What have your experiences with them been like?
If you had a problem, how was it handled?
Thanks in advance fellow permies!
This is quite a task to pull all these sources together. I live in a very cold zone 4, so the kinds of seeds I seek may not be what someone in zone 8 would choose. I save a lot of my open pollinated seeds, like my Chinese garlic, the sweet clover [white and yellow] that grows along the road. I plant and check what grows well, like the giant purple hyssop, then I replant those. For the things I buy, I go to local growers. One is Jung's garden Center. https://www.jungseed.com/ They have very few GMOs and I request non-GMO seeds, even if I have to pay a little more. They also have a nice collection of appletrees, bushes etc. My experience with them has been quite good. If you keep your receipt, they will replace a tree that failed to grow the first summer. They are long on advice, if you ask. Other than this, I get some perennial plants from the Energy Fair in Custer, WI.
These are local folks that have tried more varieties and can tell me which one do well for them: I had tried at least 5 times to grow pears: I love pears.[with a slice of cheese, DELICIOUS] but they would soon die of the blight in their first summer. I bought 2 pear trees from this orchard farmer, explaining my problem and he found me 2 varieties that are growing well and no sign of blight so far. But I'm eclectic and if I find something that will suit my garden and my taste, I go for it. I find a lot at the County extension services and I can buy in lots of 25 seedlings that are surefire winners in the Central Sands of Wisconsin: Sugar maples, white pines.... Small but cheap, and what I don't get in height, I gain in a reduction of transplant shock. I also go to the February Alliant fair in Madison. There are quite a few workshops and I always learn something valuable. And, of course, we swap locally and I will give away a lot of my seeds too: I'm a beekeeper, so if I give my neighbors some seeds of flowers that my bees like, I make my neighbor AND my bees happy. Every one wins!
$10.00 is a donation. $1,000 is an investment, $1,000,000 is a purchase.
For heirloom seeds to buy and exchange if you are so inclined. They have a huge selection for most any climate and variety. Their mission is to promote heirloom seeds with help from the growing community. From what I understand none of their seeds are gmo.
No occupation is more delightful than the culture of earth and no culture as comparable as that of the garden.
Great thread and so many weeds to work through here.
I appreciate the input thusfar.
I have been an organic seed grower for 25 years and I have a small family farm based seed company in SW Oregon called Siskiyou Seeds
I have grown seed on contract for many other seed companies that carry organic seed (Johnnys, Seeds of Change, Fedco, Terratorial, High Mowing, etc...)
One thing most people don't know is that the vast majority of seed companies do NOT grow any seed whatsoever, despite their branding and imaging. They are brokers that buy from the big multi-national giants and then give off this impression that their are Ma & Pa operations. Sadly, lack of Transparency is the norm in the seed trade. For instance - I was told by the seed buyer for Johnnys that that acquire about 70% of their seeds from China!!!
A number of small Family Farm based organic seed companies have emerged in recent years. Siskiyou Seeds joins a cadre of farm based businesses that grow most of the seed, do some plant breeding and have a deep intimacy with the varieties that they carry that hasn't been around since the era of seedsmen of the early 1900s. Companies such as Wild Garden Seeds, Siskiyou Seeds, Uprisings, Adaptive, Fruition, Hudson Valley, Grand Prismatic, All Good Things, Salt Spring Seeds, Meadowlark Hearth, Turtle Tree and others are the future of high quality Open Pollinated Seeds - Please support family owned businesses such as these.
In my opinion businesses such as Baker Creek are a dis-service to the craft of growing organic seeds as they are not transparent as to where they source their seed, it's not organic, have questionable ethical practices as to respecting indigenous cultures that share germplasm and their seed quality is shaky at times (from my personal experience in trying to grow their seeds).
Just as the Farmer's Market and CSA movements helped to put a face on the food, we now are tasked with putting a face on the seed, supporting those committed to producing high quality, open pollinated organic seed. Or better yet, save your own seeds!
For those that are interested in the later we offer a biennial workshop called the Seed Academy that is an on Farm, 5-day intensive in Seed Saving, Plant Breeding and Reproductive Biology in plants at our home farm, Seven Seeds Farm
Check it out here:http://www.sevenseedsfarm.com/2016-workshops/events-classes-2015/
Save a lot of my own seeds, lots of success with bare root plants from edible acres.org in trumansburg ny
Awesome YouTube channel too!
If I do order seeds I like adaptive, turtle tree and siskiyou(? sp.)
Location: Hot, humid, sometimes hurricane drenched west central Florida
posted 2 years ago
Tripp, thanks for the cool referral. What a beautiful website - some of the photos are stunning. I scrolled through their available plants and most are sold out, but I laughed when I got to the last plant - Miscanthus Grass!! It's invasive as hell here in central Florida - tell them to come get mine!!😆
Seriously though, their ideas on what it's good for makes me see it in a whole new light. It's fierce stuff. You cut a clump down as far as you can get to the ground and you'll be tripping over that hard mound of deadness for the rest of your days. Oh wait, that's called bio-mass. Gotta get my head yanked around to this way of thinking🙄
Stinging nettles are edible. But I really want to see you try to eat this tiny ad:
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