John C Daley wrote:
Concrete domes usually do not have anyway of catching the water from the roof, unless they are designed and built in from the start.
A lot of the freeform homes build with earth tubes, earth blocks or even a lot of Middle Eastern houses do catch rainwater.
John C Daley wrote:I think the time has come for me to teach the known world about the benefits of capturing rainwater for domestic use.
And to start a discussion about why it should be used, anybody who suggests it is unhealthy, just has the wrong information.
John C Daley wrote:We go months without serious rain here, its normal.
Funny to hear about no rain for 10 days.
Do you have any photos of your place, I may be able to help design something?
Can you get an IBC, one of those 1000L shipping unit?
Some of those are Ok for water to drink and they can be put on top of stacked pallets.
John C Daley wrote:Any trench based collection system will be prone to more detritus than a gutter system.
Any gutter system would not need to be in steel, it could be free formed channels that are up the wall above any tank height.
Also, a trench system would need pumps and that is something you should try to avoid, simply because of the expense and potential loss of water if that system fails.
John C Daley wrote:Not having pumps to get the tank filled is the trick, of course you will need them to use the water.
I see I was not clear about the way I wrote the note.
Are you in a frost zone, is that why you are putting the tank underground?
John C Daley wrote:I am intrigued by the limits you speak of , with water collection. Can you expand on that please?
With 12 inches of rainfall, would you collect much water anyway?
John C Daley wrote:UTAH STATE LAW:
To collect, store, and place the captured precipitation to a beneficial use, a person must register the use with the Utah Division of Water Rights as detailed in 73-3-1.5.
A person may collect and store precipitation without registering in no more than two covered storage containers if neither covered container has a maximum storage capacity of greater than 100 gallons.
The total allowed storage capacity with registration is no more than 2,500 gallons. Collection and use are limited to the same parcel of land on which the water is captured and stored.
There is no charge for registration.
When you submit this form, your browser will be redirected to the Rainwater Harvesting Registration certificate, which you should print for your records.
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If you’re talking about putting a barrel on a rainspout running off your roof, that’s not illegal anywhere. It cannot substantially impair anyone’s surface or underground water rights.
Whoever told you that doesn’t understand what they are talking about. To get in trouble with the law you have to collect rainwater on a mass scale: many, many acre-feet of diversion. You have to collect so much rainwater that you’ve usurped an entire watershed, and streams and springs and wells on other people’s property dry up. In that case, if you don’t own all the water rights from that watershed, then you’ve interfered with someone’s water rights just as surely as if you put a diversion dam in the stream, or pumped out an entire aquifer on which someone’s well relies. If you don’t understand why that’s illegal then you must not live in a dry climate, or you’re a city-dweller who thinks water comes out of a tap.
Water is a funny sort of property because it runs downhill, over and under boundary lines, but it is still subject to the law. The details of enforcement of water rights varies from place to place, but it is generally regarded as stealing, and you’ll be ordered to stop doing it or go to jail.
Action items: 1.Neurotoxin bowel binding program to remove the neurotoxins into the feces (out), reduce oxidation and inflammation of the bowel: chlorella, red/ green clay, charcoal, IMD
So, chelation helps minerals to get into the body, while “chelation therapy” generally refers to the binding of minerals to remove them from the body. One accepted use of chelation therapy is to remove toxic met-als like lead, mercury, cadmium, aluminum, and arsenic, which tend to be relatively toxic even at low levels.
NDF stands for nanocolloidal detox factors. It is a dietary supplement, without sulfur, made from whole food products. NDF reportedly binds to heavy metals using the algae chlorella. Typically, chlorella is thought to mobilize heavy metals through the bowel, and those who developed this product claim it can also eliminate metals through the urine. I can’t speak to whether research supports this. It is available without a prescription, but I would suggest checking with a doctor before its use.
16. What are some of the benefits of rainwater harvesting?
There are a number of benefits to using water from rainwater harvesting systems:
• The water is practically free: the only cost is to collect and treat it.
• The end use is located close to the source, thereby eliminating the need for costly distribution systems.
• Rainwater provides a source of water when a more traditional source such as groundwater is unavailable or the quality unacceptable.
• The zero hardness of rainwater helps prevent scales from building up on appliances and so extends the life of appliances.
• Rainwater is free of sodium.
• Rainwater is superior for landscape use and plants thrive on rainwater.
• Rainwater harvesting reduces flow to storm sewers and the threat of flooding.
• Rainwater harvesting helps utilities reduce peak demands during summer months.
• By harvesting rainwater, homeowners can reduce their utility bills.
7. How much does a rainwater harvesting system for a typical single-family home cost?
A complete rainwater harvesting system for a typical single-family home will generally cost between $8,000 and $10,000. The single largest cost in a rainwater harvesting system is the storage tank. As expected, the cost of a tank depends on its size and construction material. On a per gallon basis, this cost can range from about 50 cents for a fiberglass tank to more than $4 for a welded steel tank. Other components such as gutters, downspouts, roof washers, pumps, and pressure tanks will add to the cost of the system. Professionally installed systems can further increase costs. If the intended use of the system is to collect water for drinking, costs for disinfection must be added to the total cost.
John C Daley wrote: Its interesting to read your opinion about poly tanks.
live in a similar climate, and have not had any issue with any of my 6 20,000L poly tanks.
BUT, I am open to facts.
Steel tanks were popular until Poly came along, but they do rust over time.
Are plastic tanks safe
The results of a study of 1,200 single family homes by the American Water Works Association in 1999 found that the average water conserving households used approximately 49.6 gallons per person per day. (Pg 33)