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Please help with a plant identification - dandelion?

 
Cynthia Ladnier
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Hello. I'm new to the forum and I'd like to introduce myself and humbly ask for help with an identification. My name is Cindy. I live in Southeast MS and am a disabled handcrafted bath/body/other products maker. I also like making my own apothecaries, foraging, fishing, and just enjoying life. I feel so blessed to have stumbled upon this wonderful forum when I was trying to identify a plant. I have looked through my books, asked on a couple plant ID and other groups I'm on, internet searched, and I can't find a plant that looks just like this one in any pictures. Nobody so far knows what it is unfortunately. I know I have seen a picture of this plant somewhere during the couple years I've been teaching myself and it's bugging me that I can't remember what it is. I wish I had taken botany instead of environmental technology classes. Sorry for the long post. I will take a picture of the roots tomorrow. I hope it's ok to put dropbox on here. I'm hurting really badly and didn't see anything mentioning it when I just registered so I hope I didn't miss a rule about not using it. If so, I will remove it and please forgive me. Although I've never seen a patch of dandelion so thick and lush with such big leaves, I originally thought that's what it was but then several folks said it isn't so I've kept trying to Id it. Then I thought a while back that it was Plantago Virginica but I don't think that's what it is because the veins don't run all the way down to the bottom. Somebody said it was dock but it isn't. https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=front+of+dandelion+maybe.JPG , https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=MVI_0787.MOV , https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=back+o+plant.JPG , https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=patch+of+dandies+maybe.JPG , https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=possible+patch+of+dandies.JPG. Thanks so much in advance to anyone who may be able to help me. I can't wait to check out the forums more and hopefully contribute with some of the things I do know
 
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The pictures won't load for me - I think the permissions are set wrongly.

Maybe upload them somewhere else and link to them, or upload them direct to permies so we can all see.
 
Cynthia Ladnier
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Ok thanks for replying. I'll try to upload them.
 
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You can upload them direct on this thread on permies. When you are typing your reply, rather than the img button (which will only link to someplace else ont he enternet that you have uploaded them to previously), use the "attachments" tab below the text box that you type in.
 
Cynthia Ladnier
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Here are the pics. I also have a video I'll try to upload.
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Cynthia Ladnier
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That's just dandelion that looks different than my other dandelion plants in the yard isn't it lol? If it is, I'm going to cry lol.
 
Tyler Ludens
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Looks like dandelion to me. You lucky thing - I would love to have dandelions, they are supposed to be incredibly good for you.

 
Casie Becker
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I thought dandelions had much more serrated edges. I'm going to find and dandelion and take a picture. I'm going also attach a picture of one of our thistles. Until they shoot up tall, they look similar.
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Are you sure you didn't plant escarole or chicory around that area? That looks a lot more like escarole or chicory than a dandelion.

Here is a picture of wild chicory: https://www.restorationseeds.com/products/wild-chicory

and another: http://www.bestforage.com/forage-seed/forage-chicory.html

The flowers will be blue when it blooms. Otherwise, the plants in your photos do not look like dandelion to me...
 
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Oh yeah, Tyler, if you really want dandelions, PM me. I can send you seeds. They're a spring green around here and then go dormant in the summer. Honestly, my family doesn't like them and so we've just about eradicated them from our yard. Eventually we hope to do the same to the thistles.
 
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Tyler
If you want to visit and pick dandelions you are more than welcome . They flower about ten months of the year here in France , I know a market where they sell them at this time of year to eat in a winter salad .
As for seed in France there are even domesticated
http://germinance.com/pissenlits_26-F3-E47.php

It's called pissenlits a reference to some of it's medical effects ( lits = bed )

David
 
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Thank you!
 
John Elliott
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It doesn't look like a dandelion. Dandelions have bright yellow flowers that turn into "clock flowers" the following day which then disperses their seeds to the wind.

The plant in the photo looks more like prickly lettuce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactuca_serriola a common "weed" across the South. If it is prickly lettuce, when the weather gets warmer, it will send up a flower stalk, just like domesticated lettuce, flower and set seed. Lettuce seeds, unlike dandelion seeds, have no sail to them, and are not wind dispersed.

You can distinguish dock from dandelions and prickly lettuce from the color of the taproot -- dock has an orange color to it.

Tastewise, dandelions are more bitter than lettuce, although wild lettuces are significantly more so than their domesticated cousins. Dock, being high in oxalic acid, has a sour taste to it.
 
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