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Hello,
I'm new to the forum although I have used it quite a few time in the past.
I was looking at the idea of having a rocket stove with the heat riser ending inside of a brick pizza oven,
The oven dome will take the place of the conventional radiator absorbing most of the heat (hopefully).
The exhaust could be funnelled into the front of the pizza oven where the flue pipe would start and then ending to the needed hight.
I was wondering if you have seen anything like it around as I've been looking for a while without any luck.
Thanks and best to all
LST
 
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Like this? All adobe/mud cookstoves and ovens.. (scroll down for the oven)

And this: Rocket-Fired Dragon Oven at NYFF
 
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Thanks for your reply Glenn,
I can't seem to be able to access the second link, but I did see the first one.
It is not quite what I had in mind: I thought the riser could end just under the dome, on the back of the oven, while flue gases could get out on the front.
In Italy most traditional ovens are made with exhausts on the front and pizza ovens have dome lower than standard bread ovens in the rest of europe.
For good pizza it's important to have both base and dome very hot and I thought the plan I had goes in the right direction.
But as I can't see anyone doing an oven like that I wonder if the design has a flaw.
Thanks anyway for your help.
Best.
 
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You wouldn't want a rocket heat riser going straight into the oven chamber, as that would put 1000-1500F flue gases hitting some of the pizzas. You would want the riser to split, maybe not as much as shown, but running under some of the floor to make the floor hot. A rocket-fired oven generally runs while baking, unlike the traditional style where the fire is swept out before cooking. You can obviously make a dome any height you want, regardless of the configuration of the example.

Have you looked at the "similar threads" below this thread? Pizza ovens are popular.
 
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Ciao Luca. Where are you from? Anywhere near Turin ?

Well, search here, or at donkey's. There's a drawing of a pocket rocket oven i thought of. This could interest you.
 
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Glenn,
Thanks for your reply.
I think it would not be a problem to have the hot gases into the dome as I plan to fire the oven and then cook in it when the fire is out in the traditional way.
But i guess it would be an improvement to have the fire heat the floor of the oven as well. But i had never seen a design that would move the flames horizontallly before the expansion chamber of the rocket.
They always have a vertical riser and on top the chamber where the gases expand. I wonder if there is a problem changing that part of the design.
Interesting thoughts..
Best
 
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Hi Satamax,
I live in the hills nearby Parma.
Can you tell me where I can see the rocket stove you built?
Thanks
 
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I think this is it. He notes the insulated riser should run lower into the bell/oven than shown.
pizzarocket.jpg
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Parma, a bit far from me.

I haven't built an oven per se.

I was talking about this drawing.

https://permies.com/t/38661/rocket-powered-pizza-oven

And,  

On my workshop one, if i had moved th door away from the top of the riser, i could have made a black oven in there

http://donkey32.proboards.com/thread/1817/starting-build-220mm-rocket-double?page=5
 
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