Nicole Alderman wrote:Knife sharpening might go under tool care?
D. Logan wrote:I've been thinking that the A in PEA might be clearer if it stood for Anywhere instead of Apartments. The idea is that it could be done anywhere including apartments, not /just/ apartments. Making it the Permaculture Experience for Anywhere could go a long way to ensuring people got the right idea out of the gate. Thoughts?
Kate Downham wrote:I prefer this idea too. Makes it more welcoming for people who don't live in apartments.
One thought on the 'anywhere' is about climate and location - for example, some foods and preserving techniques won't work in the tropics - would it work better for the A to stand for 'Anywhere cold/temperate climate'? Or do you want it to be accessible to people in all climates?
Kate Downham wrote:Also, I noticed you had turkey in there as a meat to cook - I think it's pretty rare outside North America to find naturally raised turkey, so that might be good as an option rather than an essential part of the PEX. But I can always come up with my own weird Tasmanian off-grid PEX so please feel free to ignore what I say!
Kate Downham wrote:Some more thoughts...
Trying to have vegan-friendly options makes it a lot more complicated, and vegans can do PEP anyway, so maybe it is too much trouble for this one to be suited to vegans?
Kate Downham wrote:Would it be easy to make it suited to grain-free people? E.g. instead of cooking rice or oats, it could be 'cook a staple food in x different ways', or 'cook x number of staple vegetables or grains in x different ways'?
Nicole Alderman wrote:We're entirely grain free in our family. My husband has Crohn's, and to stay in remission, he eats no grains or starches (no polysaccarides). So no amaranth, no potatoes, no quinua, no rice, etc.
Having said that, the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) that my husband is on--and other similar ones like the GAPS diet and the Autoimmune Paleo--are rare diets. I wouldn't expect to have that accommodated in a food badge. It'd be nice, though!
But, there are a lot of grain-free substitutes. Maybe at Sand Level, there's "make a quick bread" instead of a yeast bread Quick breads can be made to fit any diet (we make them with coconut &/or almond flour), and make a pizza dough (rather than make a yeasty pizza dough), etc. Or one could do "choose 10 from this list" (list is giant list of basic skills) and at Straw Level they have to do everything else in that list. That way, those that are vegan don't have to boil an egg, and those that can't eat grains can avoid kneading a yeasty loaf.
I think most everyone on every diet can eat vegetables and fruits. People can make yogurt on every diet (it just looks different, like coconut yogurt). People can ferment veggies and can fruit on every diet. People can dehydrate things on every diet. So, there's a lot of essential skills.
I think of Sand level as the level to make sure you and your family are fed. That can happen in various ways. Straw level and up are the levels in which people gain mastery. To be a master at food prep and preservation, you need to know all the essential ways to prepare ALL the foods.
Tonight, I'll try to go through the above list with an eye toward Sand level being something that (A) requires the least amount of tools (B) Are foods that most people can eat. You can totally toss my ideas out the window. It's a fun mental exercise for me
Nicole Alderman wrote:I think one of the hard things about the PEP food badge is that it was so specific, both in the materials required (rocket stove, solar dehydrator) and in the foods required to cook (oats or sunchokes). I like the idea that sand badges are things most people can do with limited/cheap tools. Textiles just needs sewing needles and a crochet/knitting needles and thread/yarn. More tools would be spiffy, but that's really all you need. Roudwood just requires a knife and an ax and a manual drill with bits. Technically, you can get by with just a screwdriver that accepts bits and large bits (I actually drilled most of my holes that way!), and a knife. It'll take MUCH longer, but you can do it.
I really like the idea of a PEA being accessible to most everyone, which will give more incentive to learn skills. I have no desire to try for the PEP food badge, because I have no rocket mass heater or solar dehydrator. And we don't eat oats. I'm really excited about this PEA!