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Britain's Aggressive Stance Towards Wood Heatings Demise

 
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51581817

Seems RMH could be England's savior, any thoughts?
 
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This is easy Mike:   Rocket mass heaters can save the world!   If only we can educate enough folks about them.
Sound's like England is only banning  wet wood sales and coal.  I completely agree about wet wood but good anthracite coal in a hot stove burns nice and clean.  It's the soft cheap coal that burns dirty.
No matter, they are not trying to ban wood burning just clean things up.  
We just need to get more folks across the pond to become rocket scientist's!  That is how you spread the good word!
 
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Not long joined this site, lots of interesting stuff here fer sure!.
Here in the UK, I am not sure if anyone has got into Rocket Stoves. Most seem to be a simple metal pot with a pipe out of the top. Am going to look at Rocket Stoves, sure to have some scrap about the place that i can have a play with. Any suggestions where to get a set of plans from to build one?
 
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mervyn Weaver wrote:Not long joined this site, lots of interesting stuff here fer sure!.
Here in the UK, I am not sure if anyone has got into Rocket Stoves. Most seem to be a simple metal pot with a pipe out of the top. Am going to look at Rocket Stoves, sure to have some scrap about the place that i can have a play with. Any suggestions where to get a set of plans from to build one?



Rocket stove plans are everywhere.  Youtube has a million videos on them.  Rocket mass heaters are not the same thing and are quite a bit harder to build.  That is not to say you can't build one.  Most any able-bodied person that can read and follow instructions well can build one I think, but you can build a rocket stove in about 5 minutes with a small pile of bricks.

Here is a video of a rocket stove you can build for a few bucks:
 
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Hi Mervyn;  Welcome to Permies!

What you will want to look at are rocket mass heaters.  A rocket stove is an integral part of one, but can be built as stand alone stoves with little to no mass.  
Boy scouts and ice fisherman use rocket stoves quite often.

In your case I would think that an all brick bell with a batchbox build style would be a good fit.
As far as plans to build them.  
You can outright purchase specific plans for a J tube style from Ernie and Erica Wisner or you can buy their book "The Rocket mass heater builders guide" , readily available from them or amazon.
Here is a link to their Permies marketplace site )  https://permies.com/f/316/ernie-erica-wisner

Here is a link (rather long but worth it) to a build in England.    https://permies.com/t/43809/Masonry-stove-diy-build-feasible  
Here is a link to the formost batch building site ) http://batchrocket.eu/en/
Lots of red brick available over there and existing chimneys... You could have one as well.

You can also just start by reading posts in the rmh forum.
Enough information in there that a fellow can build his own rmh without specific plans.
Buying the builders guide though, is highly recommended ! It will be money well spent!
 
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Anthracite will not be banned, but there is only a couple of mines in Wales that produce it. We used to buy all of our wood wet.. but we didn't burn it wet, basically they want to make electric the ONLY fuel you can use in the UK, no gas no oil and most certainly nothing like wood or coal.
 
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There are quite a few rocket stoves in operation in the U.K.
I know of four in my area alone and I have seem many featured on Facebook .
Perhaps the best know U.K. builder - developer is “Potty”on YouTube
On a U.K. pizza oven forum there are several builders too.
So yes rockets stoves are being built and used in the U.K. however it is not legal to have one in your house as there are no specified regulations to abide too.
Insurance company don’t have guid lines either.
I know of one man where I live who wanted to instal rocket stove but was told by building control that it would not be passed as safe until he had guideline specifications and he could not see that happening in the near future!
 
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Current plans re wood are just to stop people buying small bags of wet wood, anything over 2m3 is still fine. The idea I think is to stop people burning wet wood, it doesn't stop people stocking their wood store.

It's a bit of a token gesture IMO as there is nothing to regulate what actually goes on your own fire.
 
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on the subject of wet wood, it makes a little bit crazy when I see people with stacked split wood locally with a for sale sign on it and when you call them about they say"oh yeah its dry good seasoned oak and hickory", sure it was probably cut and split a year ago but here where it rains every couple days in the fall and winter the wood is wet and won't burn well or in my stove at all until it is properly dried. they don't even bother to put a cover of some sort over it to keep it dry. put it in a stove full of red hot embers and it just sizzles like a slab of bacon on the grill.
ok now that I got that off my chest, sure I can agree with not trying to burn wet wood and coal.
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