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I cant get my JD 2210 to move out of neutral.  The lever wont move.
 
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Can you pull the top off the gearbox and inspect?

Here is an operators manual
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Is this the gear selector or the range selector?
 
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It is the low ...neutral...high on the right.


John,  I have touched nothing other than to struggle with the lever.  I figured I would cool down to avoid being stupid ...like hitting it with a 2x4.
 
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John,

I don’t know if you tried this already but I have sometimes depressed the hydro peddle just a bit and then the range selector easily slides into place.  If you have not tried this, maybe give it a shot.  If you have tried, never mind.

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Hi Eric,

I think I did that, but I will give it another shot.
 
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With my new holland, the range selector will refuse to go into 1 sometimes. The fix is to release the clutch and then clutch in again. Something is not aligning quite right, and after this it's smooth...
 
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I tried it again ...no luck
 
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A thought: Can you push/pull the tractor, even just a few inches, and try again?

My thought stems from two happenings to me. I have a 4x4 pickup with a manual transfer case. Sometimes it just won't go into 4 high or low from a stationary position, but if the truck is either rolling slowly, or I let my foot off the brake and it rolls under gravity, it will then engage. I have a four wheeler, and if the engine stalls while in 2nd gear, I can't downshift to 1st without pushing it a few inches, then I can get it into first and neutral to restart it. It seems to me sometimes gears just don't line up like they ought to, especially if they have some miles or hours on them.

 
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Hi James,

It is worth a try.
 
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Well it was worth the try—no harm done.
 
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Is/was it below zero? A friend had a bit of water get in his JD and when it was freezing out the shifter would not work due to ice where it ought not be...
 
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It is safely above freezing.
 
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John

So to me the easy-to-check-off list is finding things that would be physically blocking the gear range selector which you probably have already done.  Is there any stick or anything that might have jammed up and be blocking the lever?  Sounds incredibly basic but I have had it happen to me and it is super-easy to fix.  I recommended the hydro pedals because sometimes the gearing is not meshed up just right to slide between gear ranges.  Ideally it should always slide easily, but I occasionally found that if I just moved the hydro pedal I got things moving inside enough so that everything would line up and then the tranny would mesh up and everything slid into place.  But you did that.  I do like the idea of towing the tractor maybe 2 inches to attempt to accomplish the same.  If you can do that, I think that is a good idea and cheap enough.

Unfortunately that is where I start running out of quick-fix ideas.  I only ever had one tranny problem and it was my fault, though in the end the biggest expense was towing the tractor to the dealership and back (I had a transmission oil leak from a worn O-ring).  Hopefully it is simply a piece someplace that simply stopped in the wrong position and does not want to move.  I know that you really don't want to take it to the dealership, but might that be the next appropriate step at this point?  I just don't know.

Good luck and hang in there,

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Hi Eric,

I am off to a late start this AM.  The goats are screaming I'm baaad.  But I will enjoy a morning cup of coffee first.   I havent tried moving it much.  I have a front end loader, so I will rock it .  In the end, if this doesn't work, I will have to drag it to my driveway. Like you, I am sure this is a simple problem.  I had been debating if I was going to send it in for servicing winter, this pretty well makes that decision for me.
 
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Hi John C

Thanks for the manual, it will save me digging mine up.  Other than a fast look for the obvious, I havent looked at the transmission cover.  I think this will be the last straw that gets it to the shop.  I have a number of small problems with it. The trade off is that by sending it in, I will loose a couple of hundred dollars,  but i will gain on time and busted knuckles .
 
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Actually I had not thought about the loader.  It is probably a long shot, but maybe you can get the loader to accomplish the same effect as towing by walking the tractor back just an inch or two.  Maybe it would be enough to get everything to slide into place.  

Some years I do the maintenance myself and sometimes I have it taken to the shop--just kinda depends on what mood I am feeling on that particular year.  I just recently did my first oil change on my 2038R and whoever put the oil filter on did not lubricate the gasket first--I almost thought I was not going to be able to get the filter off!!  I think I am pretty good for maintenance this year.

You have had a rough month or so with hardware!  Maybe it will be something you can laugh at--sometime?

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Hi John:

Not familiar with that model, but curious:  Does the PTO still funtion?  

I know there are some safety devices that interact with the PTO on my 790 ....total longshot, just thinking there may be some kind of PTO/drivetrain lockout safety device accidentally engaged or perhaps broke.


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Hi Pete,

The PTO works fine.  Everything else works fine. The lever wont budge. Nice idea though...
 
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Hi Eric,

The brush cutter transaxel is supposed to be delivered to the shop today. DR air freighted it.  We will see. If so, I go back to my earlier view that the company is suffering from green staff.  But, that part is going to have to show first.
 
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Between the DR and the JD, is there any chance that you might recently have offended an old gypsy woman? If so, your only option is to seek her out and find what she demands in exchange for lifting the curse.
 
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Using the bucket to move it worked.  It went into low gear with considerable effort.  I have it moved to a covered area.  This leaves me to wonder what is going on inside the box.  I would assume there is supposed to be some kind of lubricant in there that maybe isnt there any more.  By any means I will take John Daleys suggestion and look for a way to open it up.
 
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Hi Dc,

I have been cursed by every group out there at one time or the other.  Hell, my cat curses me every morning when I give her her antibiotic.  Hey, wait a minute .....here kitty...kitty....kitty...
 
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John,

Well I am glad you got it in gear!  

Can you now move it back and forth between neutral and low fairly easily?  Will it go into High at all?  My experience is that just getting a bit of movement gets things going.  BTW, was the tractor sitting for some length of time?  Just a thought.

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John F Dean wrote:  I would assume there is supposed to be some kind of lubricant in there that maybe isnt there any more.



It runs in the same bath of gear oil as the rest of the transmission. If you can read the dip stick on the transmission/rear differential, since it's all the same housing, it will reveal any shortage of lubricant.

 
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Hi Eric,

Yes, gear wise the tractor has been sitting. I have run the chipper all summer.

Easily isn't the correct term for moving the lever.  I have not gotten it into high.
 
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Hi James,

My brain was fried there for a few minutes, I seem to remember working on an old tractor once that had some kind d of gunk filled transfer case.
 
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I am sending it in to be worked on.  I can get it to shift, but it is struggle. The writing on the wall says I will get it out to the middle of nowhere and will be unable to get it back.
 
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I don’t know if this is consolation or not but I think this is probably the best thing to do.

Sorry man,

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Look for a local brand agnostic repair shop that has experience with your size of tractor,  I will take the guys you actually fix things over the dealers who just want to keep you coming back.  Ask around.  There is nearly always one in any given area.  They tend to be a lot more reasonable on prices but might take a bit longer.  You can almost always tell the good ones because their shops stay stacked up.  
 
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You may have somehow bent one of the shift forks!
 
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Maybe look here
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The JD is ready. All problems were addressed including a wheel hub, transmission, water pump, and new belts for 400.....oh yes ...pick up and delivery from 60 miles away. In my world,  that is a bargain.  It freed up a lot of my time.
 
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John, honestly I was fearing much, much worse.  I think that $400 is a bargain consider it was a transmission problem.  Good to hear that your 2210 is back up and running though!

Eric

 
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John F Dean wrote:The JD is ready.



Did the dealer tell you exactly what was causing the gear selector to get stuck?

 
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Hi James,

Not yet.  I am having them check out a few more items ... it has been 2 years or so since it has been thoroughly gone over. ......, and I certainly want more info on the transmission.  I get the idea the problem was more with the lever than the actual transmission.
 
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John, I have had troubles with my control levers on my Kubota tractors, and it has been lack of lubrication in the linkages on the outside of the machine (not internal transmission/valve trouble) especially since they are hidden by the covers with slots in them, or boots over them, it's difficult to get in there to oil them, or even see what's going on in there... My loader stick often "sticks" in one direction on the BX2380 rather than centering, so I have to manually center it... before finding the oil.
 
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John F Dean wrote:The JD is ready. All problems were addressed including a wheel hub, transmission, water pump, and new belts for 400.....oh yes ...pick up and delivery from 60 miles away. In my world,  that is a bargain.  It freed up a lot of my time.



Nice!

I would sure pick up a wrench less often if there was a shop around here like that. There is exactly one tractor shop anywhere near me, and I would be expecting a 4 digit bill for that list, even if I did the transport... after a lot of chasing them and waiting.
 
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Hi Kenneth,

You win the Grand Prize . It just needed a little oil.
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