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TLDR: What can we do to improve the land and implement permaculture principals on land we simply steward vs own?

I really love all of the ways the people in this forum are enhancing their property via permaculture, but most of the activities seem to be aimed at land owners. Often people may want to do permaculture experiments, but know there is an end date to that lifestyle. I thought I was alone in this until reading permaculture thorns and put myself in the shoes of its many characters. My own journey has an indefinite end date because I moved where I live to take care or my 92 year old grandfather and maintain his 10 acre property. Ideally, I'd like to do this again for another aging person/couple, but don't see that happening.

Ideas I've implemented and/or thought through:
small animals (rabbits and poultry) with mobile housing units
wood working
annual gardens
hunting
Greenhouse (need to figure out a mobile version)

 
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K Wagner said, "I really love all of the ways the people in this forum are enhancing their property via aquaculture, but most of the activities seem to be aimed at land owners.



I am not really familiar with aquaculture so I am not sure if it could be done by a land steward rather than a landowner.

It seems to me that the same basic permaculture principles could be applied by a land steward.

Especially catch and store energy and to obtain a yield.
 
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I think that permaculture as it relates to soil is doable both for renter/steward as it is for owners.
Soil = adding carbon/biochar/woodchip, adding soil-life/mushroom slurry/compost tea, rockdust/lime, swales
Vegetable/Herbs/Mushroom is also doable
Honey/Eggs/Poultry should also be very doable too, even goat and pens are doable.
Planting fruit/nut trees around the perimeter of the property might be okay, fruiting vines on the fence line should require much. The problem with nuts/fruit trees is that by the time they produce you might be gone, and the owner might not want something as permanent at nuts and fruit tree

There is also permaculture in the context of food preservation/perpetration, that you can do anywhere even in a tiny studio in the heart of a city.

Permaculture in regard to solar-electric, greenroof, earth berm house, solar hot water, basically any zone0 house system, is probably going to be a much harder sell. and the cost involved will be alot higher than just $5,000 to plant 200 trees per acre of food forest.
 
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i'll admit that was a typo and meant to say permaculture across the board. editted.
 
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The soil and vegetables part of your message is great and i totally agree. I should ramp up in those areas.

As for goat pens, i intend to do this with sheep, i just need to design something.

I wish i could get into the fruit and nut tree game, I just don't think it'll happen. I think my grandfather will pass by then and my aunt's will want to just sell to the highest bidder and that would not be me unfortunately in this market.

Preservation and preparation... i need to take this more seriously and ramp up on it. I butchered 2 of my chickens and am almost nervous to do the 3rd because I feel like i was not efficient at it.

I often see online posts asking "If you had an extra $1k right now, how would you invest it?" I think I made this post with the same mindset, "I don't have a lot to offer, but I do have something, what should I do?" If i really want to be a permaculturalist, i need to do the work myself, that is observation.
 
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K Wagner said, "Preservation and preparation... i need to take this more seriously and ramp up on it. I butchered 2 of my chickens and am almost nervous to do the 3rd because I feel like i was not efficient at it.



It is not too difficult to learn to effectively butcher a chicken.

What was the hardest part of doing this?

 
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I never made stock before and felt like I wasted a lot by not doing it.
I can't identify the organs partially because of my color blindness partially because I don't know anatomy well enough and that makes me even more nervous to what excrement i might miss.
Kinda confused how to go from raw bird to whole cooked bird, similarly confused for going from raw bird to raw cuts of legs, breast, etc.

I don't want to get off on a chicken tangent though. Maybe send me a purple moosage if you have tips so this thread can stay on topic about design.
 
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