tel jetson wrote:bamboo makes clean firewood that cures quickly. don't despair that it will take over the yard, just make good use of it.
maybe not real helpful advice, but I depending on your climate, an acre ought to be plenty of space to grow food for your family.
spreading perennial herbs (mints, thymes, etc.) are helpful for making things look a little more landscaped while still being useful.
sounds like you've got a good start already.
Josef Theisen wrote:When my wife and I first bought our one acre, I felt an intense pressure to keep things "landscaped" and looking nice. The problem is that the entire philosophy of lawns and landscaping is based on displaying wealth, which leaves no place for anything that resembles poverty. This generally includes any type of food production, clotheslines, and a bunch of other permaculture values. I don't want to dismiss your husband's feelings because they are valid, and fitting in to your community is also an important thing. What has helped me is working on making a connection and cultivating a real relationship with my neighbors. The more we get along, and the more they understand what we are doing, the more confidence I have in trying new things.
I also advocate the stated permaculture design principal of making small changes and observing the results. Not just glancing and operating on assumptions, but dedicating real time with an open mind to see what is actually happening in your yard first hand.
All that being said, I agree with Brenda. Gaia's garden is a great read, and really helped me understand the forest garden and ecological design concepts.
Nechda Chekanov wrote:
- husband who wants things very landscaped
Here is what I want to do... (and i'd love your input!!)
- clean out the stream - can i create a small pond?? how would i do that?
- plant asparagus, rhubarb, fruit trees on the forest edges in clusters
- transplant ferns to the area that has been taken over by unproductive jerusalem artichockes to harvest fiddleheads eventually
- plant fruit trees and perennial herbs to help stabilize a terraced yard
S Bengi wrote:1st what percentage of your yard does your husband want as lawn.
You can still have a lawn with 12ft+ fruit/nut/vegetable trees that you can walk under. Just have wood mulch circles around trees with a few flowering herbs. I think his concerns are that you have too much ground cover.
Start in a back corner make it look pretty/handsome for the husband then do the front and then go to the back, kill the trees and make it high density. I know you might lose a year and a few hundred dollars, but then you dont have to argue and stress for years, worth it to me.
Make sure you screen off your yard with fences/vines/fruiting hedge. Out of sight out of mind. No complains.
You could also just start off with big fruiting landscaping looking trees then in a few years bring in the "untidy" groundcover/shrubs
Also offering him a nice/new patio and grill will make him happy.
S Bengi wrote:You can grow a few plant in the shaded area. Anything in the blackberry family which includes quite a few groundcover ones, the gooseberry family, strawberry, artic kiwi, mongolia vine, juneberry, cornus mas, nannyberry, elderberry, hazelnut and a few others.
This is what my back yard looks like most of the trees reach a max height of 10ft when mature.
Tell me what you think of it.
Here is my current experimental boston. garden: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjpWBJwPQ0nMdEpjV1AwcVJ0dGFZbnVpVEw0RlFQR0E
A few pics of the kiddos in the boston garden : http://home.comcast.net/~beryluter/site/?/photos/
Julia Winter wrote:I'm sorry, but I have to respond to "easiest of all, don't water it where you don't want it to grow." That's climate specific advice--West Coast United States advice, to be specific.
Nechda Chekanov wrote:We are in the city, full on. ... almost an acre ... suggestions?
Julia Winter wrote: Oops! West Coast North America, not United States! Sorry, my bad.
What is a "triffid"?
ok I got them to work!!!
Julia Winter wrote:Oh Nechda, I'm sorry about the troubles with the photos! It's funny how difficult it is to respond to an upside down photo.
I'm sitting in the ICU with my dad, so I'm afraid my brain is too fried to offer any good advice. Your deck must have a southern exposure--keep in mind there will be less sun there in the summer time, when the sun is higher in the sky.
Gravity is a harsh mistress. But this tiny ad is pretty easy to deal with:
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