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Bought a lamp I like at a yard sale ($2.00!) had to get a broken bulb out of the socket but then it works fine and is a 3 way one! Neat!

It wants a shade. I can think up things that would look best, but the only ways I can think up to put one on it is one that clamps on the bulb (I have the thing to do that, just don’t think it will do what I’d like it to) or use gorilla tape :)

Any idea how these were made to have shades on them? The neck flexes to point it, the switch needs to be easy to reach and not burn your hand on the bulb.

I am going to the city next week, plan to stop by Habitat for Humanity, they have lots of lamp glass and shades, but knowing how I will hold it on is a major factor in my choice.
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can't really tell if those are threads below the bulb. If they are, is this the type of shade you need?
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Robert Ray wrote:can't really tell if those are threads below the bulb. If they are, is this the type of shade you need?
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=shade+for+threaded+light+socket&mid=9D6451AB8FC27EEDCBC39D6451AB8FC27EEDCBC3&FORM=VIRE

Not threads. That would have been easy, and I'd have not needed to ask :D
That IS where I'm plotting to gorilla tape if I have to!
I checked the sockets on a couple of other older lamps, they all have those rings, none are threads though.

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Is there a way to loosen the spot where the lamp tube joins the vertical holder? If so, can you find something that will hold a lamp shade that could be slid onto that tube and would sit above the flared bit that allows the socket to flex?

Probably not, because that's probably where the wires are.

Also that flared bit probably doesn't unscrew either...

Have you run the image through a search program to see if you get any ideas there?

If it were me, I'd *really* like to find a way to have a shade that was held above the flared bit.

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Think something like this would work, put on, upside down?https://www.amazon.com/Holder-Adapter-Lampshade-Levellers-Antique/dp/B0CZTKF2XS/ref=asc_df_B0CZTKF2XS

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Jay Angler wrote:Is there a way to loosen the spot where the lamp tube joins the vertical holder? If so, can you find something that will hold a lamp shade that could be slid onto that tube and would sit above the flared bit that allows the socket to flex?

Probably not, because that's probably where the wires are.

Also that flared bit probably doesn't unscrew either...

Thought about that earlier.
I can pull the wire and thread something on there, but then there's no way to not burn your hand on the bulb if you use the switch.

Have you run the image through a search program to see if you get any ideas there?

Yup and nope :D

If it were me, I'd *really* like to find a way to have a shade that was held above the flared bit.

The switch is in there. and the neck pivots...

It HAD to have come with a shade, I'm just at a loss how :D

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Carla Burke wrote:Think something like this would work, put on, upside down? https://www.amazon.com/Holder-Adapter-Lampshade-Levellers-Antique/dp/B0CZTKF2XS/ref=asc_df_B0CZTKF2XS

I have those (one's hooked to the shelves right next to me on a magnet)
That ... doesn't seem to be what I want. If I did that I'd want a shade that opens wide at what would be the top (but is the bulb end on this) and tapered in up toward the lamp. Opposite of how shades tend to work. Not in the mood to make a custom shade for it this week. I CAN do that, I HAVE done that... but it's ugh a lot of work.

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Pearl Sutton wrote:I can pull the wire and thread something on there, but then there's no way to not burn your hand on the bulb if you use the switch. :D

Is it a floor lamp, or a table lamp? I don't think it's possible to install an inline switch on the cord to make it a 3 way, although I've seen floor switches that were dimmable.

I wish there was something commercial that would clamp to the flat area between the switch and the bulb. Two pipe clamps bolted together? Then you would still need a shade with a hole that was close to the same size as the socket.

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Floor lamp

I looked at it again. Wondering if I can find some lacy looking brass screening I can make a shade with.

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There are two other types I've seen. The first, I've used, and they're kinda a pain, every time you change the bulb, the shade comes off, too. That's the first one - the lightbulb goes through the ring in the shade, and into the socket.

The second one is mounted to another socket that screws into the original socket. That would be much easier, and frankly, seems safer to me, than the one with the ring that always felt like it might break the lightbulb, if it were jostled, just so.

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Pearl Sutton wrote:I can pull the wire and thread something on there, but then there's no way to not burn your hand on the bulb if you use the switch.

Could you add an in-line switch to the cable so that you don't have to put your hand so close to the bulb? Just leave that one on all the time and switch it off using the in-line switch.

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That looks … fun.

if you can find something that threads on the thread at the bottom, you are in luck.
Otherwise replacing the socket with a more modern on that allows attaching a shade would solve it.

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Pearl Sutton wrote:I can pull the wire and thread something on there, but then there's no way to not burn your hand on the bulb if you use the switch.

Could you add an in-line switch to the cable so that you don't have to put your hand so close to the bulb? Just leave that one on all the time and switch it off using the in-line switch.

I like that it's a 3 way switch, will light the bulb up low, medium or high.

Since it looks like a reading lamp in my world, that's something I consider a major feature.

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Sebastian Köln wrote:That looks … fun.

if you can find something that threads on the thread at the bottom, you are in luck.
Otherwise replacing the socket with a more modern on that allows attaching a shade would solve it

Those are not threads on the bottom, just parallel lines.

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Sebastian Köln wrote:Otherwise replacing the socket with a more modern on that allows attaching a shade would solve it.

If you decide to go the approach of replacing the socket (a shame really, as the current one looks in good condition), is it possible to get 3-way ones with the dangly chain? We replaced my floor lamp socket with a chain operated one, and it's much more convenient than having to reach up where I couldn't see, to find the switch. Again, I have no idea if you can get 3-way in a chain version.

Have you considered the large "globe" bulbs often used in bathrooms that are intended to be used with no shade at all? I'm not recommending that, as they aren't my style, but it's just another option.

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If you find a shade with a matching diameter, a bit of wire wrapped around the rings would probably keep it in place, but that's a rather difficult operation each time you want to remove it.

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I was mostly hoping someone knew how the original shades were attached on these things.
I'll look at Habitat, see what I see.
I know what I want it to look like if I can, was just hoping for data on installing anything that I am lacking.

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Image searching shades, I don’t see exactly what is on my head, but some pics of shades I would definitely consider a total win, even if not what’s in my head.
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The last one is on a similar lamp

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My mom had a brass floor lamp just like the one in the bottom picture, when I was a kid, but with a fabric shade. I like the one in the photo better, lol.

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That spot between the bulb and the knob is SUPPOSED to have threads and another threaded ring to hold a shade. I can’t tell if it melted and welded together or just didn’t have one. It looks like a lamp socket for a normal lamp where the bulb points up and gravity holds the shade.

If you are handy enough to replace and re wire the switch, it might be easiest to just replace the bulb holder with one that has the ring.

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R Scott wrote:That spot between the bulb and the knob is SUPPOSED to have threads and another threaded ring to hold a shade. I can’t tell if it melted and welded together or just didn’t have one. It looks like a lamp socket for a normal lamp where the bulb points up and gravity holds the shade.

If you are handy enough to replace and re wire the switch, it might be easiest to just replace the bulb holder with one that has the ring.

Not melted. Nice neat parallel lines, made that way.

I can rewire. Not sure I want to. I like the old switches like that, the new switches I have bought in the last 10 years or so are all garbage.
I'll see what I come up with. I have tricks.
Might not be the original socket, the cord is newer than the metal part, so the socket may be newer too.

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Pearl Sutton wrote: Not melted. Nice neat parallel lines, made that way.

Cambered so that a light weight shade could be a press fit?

Doesn't look like it in the picture, but worth an ask...

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Jay Angler wrote:

Pearl Sutton wrote: Not melted. Nice neat parallel lines, made that way.

Cambered so that a light weight shade could be a press fit?

Doesn't look like it in the picture, but worth an ask...

Nope :D
I think R Scott is right, it's made to be part of an upright fixture, not a gooseneck.

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I think you said you'd rewired lamps before, so you know that shell will come apart (unscrew) and the actual socket will separate from it.

What if you put a different shell on it, but kept the 3-way socket you like? I found one I suspect would work well on amazon for $5.69, if you reuse your socket. About $1.30 higher to get it with a 3-way socket already in it.

By all means, check Habitat for Humanity, but this can give you the new price for comparison, if what I picked will work for you.

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This is my second version of a shade. Not too bad, some seriously odd structure under a lot of tape and some ribbon. We’ll see if it works or not
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