"There's no two ways about it. A good lawn means a bad ecosystem. Period."
The problem people run into is local rules and regulations, either city or Home Owner Association, which require that manicured lawn of a certain height.
Joop Corbin - swomp wrote:
All of this COULD (if your up for that) be changed in a system that is divers, produces edibles, and makes up an ecosystem or is part of an ecosystem, without loosing other functions a lawn can have...
For me, if doing permaculture, i would always try to make every element be part of your systems. also a house, a house generally doesn't make out an eco system but i don't see why a house cannot be part of a working ecosystem. it can harvest water, sustain warmth, etc. etc. but even the primary function of a house: shelter, is a function ecosystems provide for their inhabitants...
We played in the cow pastures and woods that surrounded us; it was a much richer and more interesting environment.
- (unnecessary) use of lots of water
- a lot of (unnecessary) work
- monoculture, and the lack of biodiversity
rose macaskie wrote:
"the sort of arguement that kept the poor poor for years, and women patient with their husbands who are just common garden bullies not poor people who would come round with love .
if you love them they may die feelling tha human love is true but you will dyie feeling that life is not worth it. you wont want to be reincarnated again. and thye will go on trying to get there. "
People believe what the most convincing llier tells them and the bullies always get their story in first that is part of the trick,
I agree. I also thought about all this. I have seen lawns that are monster time-gobblers cos too large. I know someone that has a lawn so big that it takes 4 days to mow! Her hubby is retired and that is what he does... no thanks. That is just nuts to me. ...."Cos it looks nice." And what did you do with your day....? Week...? Month...? I think it looks rather bare and uninteresting anyway. But his choice and happy with it.
paul wheaton wrote: A lawn facilitates potlucks, yard sales, picnics and a place to hang out outside. A place for children to play and a place where even adults sometimes play. A lawn can be loaded with polyculture and edibles. You don't have to do it "their way".
That sounds good reading.... Where would I find that?
paul wheaton wrote:We have a whole thread dedicated to a diverse lawn: lots and lots of different things growing with the grass.
paul wheaton wrote:
Well .... as americans we just assume that folks will mow in an optimal pattern. The boy was mowing in a zig zaggy crazy random pattern. I suppose the same pattern that a goat would use.
How about an all yarrow lawn? I've seen one - it was lovely on the bare toes.
Or an all moss lawn - I've seen that before too.
permie mama wrote:
Even in planting a lawn, I wouldn't want to plant a polyculture. How about a fescue, yarrow, clover mix? These will all support each other and still be lovely on the toes.