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paul wheaton
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They have a kickstarter running right now, but frankly, their kickstarter is more important than mine. If you have money right now for a kickstarter and you can support only one, I urge you to support theirs instead of mine.






click here to go to their kickstarter page



 
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Interesting.... Please look into the Gerson miracle and A beautiful truth. Real deal!! Max Gersons daughter is longer ever survivor after being diagnosed with TB. She has lived over 70 years since being diagnosed with it when she was 12. Normal life expectancy is about 5 years I think and She now runs the Gerson institute and is helping others with this treatment. Of course also look into Run From the Cure, the Rick Simpson story. Many people have also taken this concept and start juicing Ganja plants noticing great benefits with no "high". I'm sure their is a forum somewhere about cancer, but thought I would share this once I saw this. Support those that perpetuate this work and also learn more about it yourself with the above documentaries already made.
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Thanks for pointing us at this Paul. I already supported the HugelKultur videos, but I went and supported this one this morning/afternoon/whatever time it was. I just received an email from the ladies thanking me for my support, then I ratted you out to them as being the reason I found them. This is a worthy thing and is in line with your Plans for world domination.

Marcel, this project is based on the filming of 6 folks who are using the Gerson Method to fight their cancers.
 
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You make a great point with those two movies, Marcel; not enough people understand they have options other than chemo and radiation. One of our planned projects is to create a series of permaculture "Gerson Gardens" specifically to grow produce for those fighting cancer nutritionally.

Does anyone have direct contact info for these folks? I'll do an article on them and give them a push, but I'd rather have a little live interview material instead of just pulling all the info from their Kickstarter.
 
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Jennifer Jennings wrote:You make a great point with those two movies, Marcel; not enough people understand they have options other than chemo and radiation. One of our planned projects is to create a series of permaculture "Gerson Gardens" specifically to grow produce for those fighting cancer nutritionally.

Does anyone have direct contact info for these folks? I'll do an article on them and give them a push, but I'd rather have a little live interview material instead of just pulling all the info from their Kickstarter.


Jennifer,

I have been getting emails from them, do you want me to ask them if it is okay for you to contact them and give you their email via "Purple Mooseage"?

ETA: I went ahead and sent an email via the Kickstarter system. You can also go to the film website and send message that way.

The Food Cure Film Contact Page

The SarahMabrouk.com Contact page
 
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Thank you. Just went over and supportd this.
 
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I signed up. I am a survivor, and I used trametes versicolor and modified citrus pectin. Still here 14 years later.
 
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this whole idea that cancer can be treated with diet is not new, there are several different ways to treat cancer with diet, from macrobiotic to fruit juice, to vegetable juice, not to mention numerous herbs that help clean the elimination systems, liver, blood and tissues.

cancer tissue has been shown to revert to normal cells when the cellular environment normalizes, so clean up the body, give good nutrition it's a no brainer

the course i took they used to say cancer is a simple disease to cure, but it's frequently not easy, since the cure involves changing just about every basic bad habit modern man has become addicted to

frequently people who do manage to make the necessary changes have an identity crisis, the person that survives the cancer is not the same person that developed the cancer in the first place.

Of course the person that emerges will have more positive energy and a totally different outlook on all the brainwashing we've been exposed to re modern medicine

I spoke with one ama type doctor who had turned on to alternative cancer treatments, and had his license suspended--not for killing patients, on the contrary, he was suspended because he didn't follow their protocol--chemical poison, surgery, radiation

i've heard that almost every hospital is so invested in these standard treatments they would face bankruptcy if there was a simple cure "discovered",, so for them at this point the medical system is hustling to protect it's cancer franchises, and they will not give up easily

more people are living off cancer than are dying from it
 
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I have always thought it "interesting" that there are lots of NPA that ask for money to "fight" cancer and other medical problems. The money would go for research to.... whoever has the money to have already built the research facility... Big pharma companies for the most part. Their interest is not in a cure, they would like to have a patentable drug that does not cure you, but makes you feel better and last a longer time while sick provided you continue to take their very expensive drug. So if you then get sick, you will pay high for the same drug you gave money to help develop. No wonder all the MDs base their pension on pharma. (and over prescribe) As a side note, my son, who is just finishing a phd (not in meds) says that almost all university research goes towards patentable things that they can sell to have more research money, so just being a part of a government funded university research project does not eliminate pharma company influence. The words "clinically proven" are pretty much meaningless too. It just means we did enough research to protect us from litigation.

Almost all true cures will be word of mouth/read it on the internet that come with some kind of legal disclaimer... not to keep you from suing, but to keep big pharma from suing. People still get sued for talking about cures that are against pharma. I have had MDs tell me "now that you have done the research I can nod my head, but I can't say anything". I have a son diagnosed as "high functioning autistic" It started right after immunization, but may have been that along with antibiotics. He is still hypersensitive to antibiotics... gets a rash from eggs where the chicken was fed antibiotic food. Our ground and water are becoming poisoned with chemicals that are fed to animals, it is getting harder to avoid.
 
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one whole lesson in our master herbalist course was devoted to how to talk to avoid being thrown in jail if we used the wrong word-- we dare not diagnose or prescribe and heaven knows we dare not treat or cure--and i've come to believe in the end that is probably a good thing,, we all should develop a self awareness and take responsibility for our own healing (or not)

it is too easy to give up control of our bodies to "experts" who are just as fallible as we are, and really can never know our bodies as well as we can--one of my teachers said at the end of each interview we should ask the person what do they think is wrong, and most of the time they know exactly what it is and have pretty good ideas of where their healing will come from, even if they don't know the exact herb or diet

the same thing is true of reiki,, the most effective thing a healer can do is empower the patient to take charge of and have confidence in their own ability to heal themselves
 
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I'm NOT going to follow Paul's advice - even though in theory I agree with "what I think" the basics of the Gerson method are. And I'll try to explain why without pissing anyone off.

I would like to re-quote Bob Day's entire post because I found it more informative than either the "The Food Cure" Kickstarter, the actual TheFoodCure site or the Gerson Clinic website. First of all, there is an underlying message that this raw, toxin-free veggie diet "cures" a whole bunch of things other than cancer. And yet both the Gerson Clinic and Sarah Mabrouk focus ONLY on cancer. Why? As Bob said, it's where the money is.

Secondly, I've not read either Charlotte Gerson's book nor Max Gerson's book - nor seen the DVDs they sell on their website. As far as I can tell, the video Sarah is producing is less of a documentary and more of a 90-minute Gerson Infomercial. What will make this video different from the ones already produced by Gerson? What will make a mere 6 case studies change the thinking of the obese, self-destructing society in which we live?

Sorry Paul, I have chosen instead to invest in your Kickstarter. I know of mike oehler, I've read both his books, and I've seen empirical data that proves his theories. I know John Hait, I've read his book on PAHS, and I've seen empirical data that proves his theories. I've read Ianto Evans' book, and witnessed the success of RM heaters. I've read Mark Shepard's book and seen the proof. I've read rob roy's books and built timber-framed, cord and cob. sepp holzer, Ben Faulk, geoff lawton, Paul Stamuts, ... dozens of others that have smothered us in empirical evidence of the last 8, or 12, or even 25 years; and have provided TONS & TONS of FREE information.

The Gerson practice has been around for over 60 years - three generations! Where's the proof, where's the evidence? I couldn't find ANY real information being given away by Gerson. And personally, I'm not comfortable with that. What is this emotion-based infomercial of six sad-luck stories going to change?

Yes - I do believe that our health can be altered by a diet high in vegetables and fruit; and that raw is better than processed. I believe that a healthy diet and exercise CAN stave off most deceases - including that big, scary CANCER. But I believe a more "permaculture / permanent / holistic approach is PREVENTION not CURE. Food is NOT the cure - so much as food is the answer to never needing a cure.

Damn it, I still eat meat (though more fish & poultry than beef & pork); and I'm not convinced that squirting coffee up my ass is part of mother nature's solution. I'm sure this post won't win me any friends or even an apple (I'm hoping I don't get lemons), but I can't be a hypocrite. I share this rant because maybe Sarah or the Gersons will take it to heart; constructive criticism for maybe rethinking their approach.

With nothing but respect and best wishes, Jeff
 
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i don't have money to support either, although i believe in both--but i do agree that this sounds a bit like any of the many cures for cancer

i remember a book from over ten (20?)years ago that talked about how there were at least 60 different cures for cancer, and gerson i'm sure is one of them

dr christoper has the oldest (i think) natural healing school in the country, he was thrown in jail numerous times for his practice and was responsible for saving/ prolonging thousands of lives

his formulas were always open sourced as was his diet,, he told everyone how much of what herb and how to prepare the formulas, and what was a good diet? fresh, raw, vegan (except he liked butter, and he used warm milk to lure tapeworms out of the body)

there may be some minor modifications to some of his formulas today, but his basics are still the ones i turn to,, simple, inexpensive, and a good wildcrafter/gardener should be able to use his guides to put together any of them quickly and inexpensively.

imho cancer is neither the most dangerous nor the most difficult disease to treat, it just happens to be the one we declared war on while every fast food chain and grocery market conspires to provide us with the lifestyle that will create it--thereby generating an unending stream of revenue for multiple vendors--including the health care industry
 
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The Movie The Beautiful Truth has been out for some time, 2008, so I am excited that an updated movie will come out about Dr. Gerson. The sad thing is that Gerson has THOUSANDS of documented successes over DECADES of people using food as the cure, yet the Allopathic community wants to say it is not a viable methodology. Gerson has had better success over time than the Chemical community. I will support this and Paul's, since even $5 is the lowest amount, really that is not much to ask for something that impacts so many people today.

If you think there is NO EVIDENCE please watch this video..

Here is the other video for your perusal to find out more about this cure. I only post this so that you can see why an UPDATED new video is of value. Recently in my community of Missoula, they CELEBRATED the new opening of a Cancer Wing at Community Hospital..HOW DO YOU CELEBRATE THAT? Cancer is big business, and using Food is certainly NOT something they want to promote, since it is NOT good for big business to support such a thing that EVERYONE can do, cheaply.

I think this is a legal copy since it has over 1 million views. You can watch it on Netflix as well, if you are concerned about that.



I do not seem to know how to add a video using the YT link so not sure what to do here..

So here is the link, if one of the Forum Helpers can fix mine above please feel free to edit his.
Beautiful Truth

Synopsis of the movie
Raised on a wildlife reserve in Alaska, 15-year old Garrett was interested in the dietary habits of their animals.

After the tragic death of his mother, Garrett s father decided to home-school his son and assigned a book written by Dr. Max Gerson that proposes a direct link between diet and a cure for cancer.

Fascinated, Garrett embarks on a cross-country road trip to investigate The Gerson Therapy. He meets with scientists, doctors and cancer survivors who reveal how it is in the best interest of the multi-billion dollar medical industry to dismiss the notion of alternative and natural cures.

It has been said that more people live off cancer than die from it. The Beautiful Truth is a movie that can put a stop to this travesty. Here is a very practical guide to the intensive nutritional treatment of cancer and other life-threatening diseases that many would consider to have been impossible to obtain. But thanks to the work of Max Gerson, M.D., and his daughter, Charlotte Gerson, this knowledge is readily available.

Max Gerson cured cancer. He did so with a strict fat-free, salt-free, low-protein, essentially vegetarian dietary regimen, based on great quantities of fresh vegetable juice, supplements, and systemic detoxification.

 
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The sad thing is that Gerson has THOUSANDS of documented successes over DECADES of people using food as the cure, yet the Allopathic community wants to say it is not a viable methodology. -- R. Holman


Thank you, Rebecca, that's what I was looking for. Over three generations and over 70 years of practice - there should be THOUSANDS of documented successes. And I would think that as a result of those cancer-curing successes, there would be TENS-OF-THOUSANDS of friends and family members so impressed with this dietary cure that they'd gratefully and enthusiastically adopt this miracle diet as a preemptive life style, sing its praising, and inform the media.

Perhaps it is time for a new Gerson documentary. "The Beautify Truth" is now 5 years old. It touched on many ills, corruptions and conspiracies - including the Gerson story. IMO - nothing has changed; or if it has - it's for the worse. Let's hope "The Food Cure" fairs better.
 
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I'm ok with dr gerson, i'm ok with ann wigmore, dr christopher, numerous pioneers who all knew that cancer is not this formidable opponent the medical industry would have us believe it is

anything that makes noise to inform people that there is a different truth out there then the one they would have us believe is fine with me

 
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On our Facebook Thread a HAPPY Gerson Survivor speaks up

In August 2012 I was diagnosed with state 1 early detected breast cancer. After much research of my own I found the Gerson Therapy, studied as much as I could. I refused radiation and the 5 year protocol drug Tamoxofin, had a full double mastectomy where they found another tumor undetected by the original mammogram and sonogram. Never felt better in my life. That was my choice. Had I known about Gerson BEFORE the diagnosis and the money and resources to move to Mexico where the current clinic is, I would have. I believe in this with my whole being. Trying to talk with an Oncologist about any of this goes on deaf ears and they change the subject. I so hope they can continue to grow and spread the word. They also have a FB page. Well done Paul for spreadin the good works.


Facebook Link To The Thread This is On For FB users.

 
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On Pauls FB Thread someone else shared a video from a Gerson Survivor

1 Year on Gerson Therapy | Photo Morph, Before & After
 
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I have checked out numerous cancer cure protocol claims over the years, and I completely agree with all the criticisms of Big Med. But what I would really, really, really, really like to see are the 'the thousands of successful cases' claimed for any of them, Gerson in particular, perhaps, posted online. I would gladly contribute to a Kickstarter to fund this kind of posting, where the information is available for verification and information.

(I believe there is a website where allopathic patients can post their treatment progress in the interest of informing other sufferers and charting effectiveness of various treatments. This could possibly be done for alternative treatments. I'll go see if I can find the name of the allopathic site.
OK, here it is, in a quote referring to a presentation by Clay Shirky....."Shirky used the example of Patientslikeme.com, a site for sharing of medical data that could ultimately help medical science research and cure diseases. It flies in the face of everything the medical establishment tells us about health care—that it's private.")
 
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The idea of a patient based analysis is a great one,, it circumvents legal problems for alternative healers, esp if their names were kept out of the reporting, and it was just accumulating data

being able to somehow quantify and statistically analyse the data would be amazing

Maybe someone could write up a kickstarter that would fund some people with alternative medical knowledge and statistical analysis skills to set up a data base

ie type of disease, severity, etc,, herbs used, foods used, other procedures--compresses, poultices, acupuncture, etc,, and people with diseases that had been treated both successfully and unsuccessfully could plug their personal data into the system..

I might worry about the cyber squads trying to undermine that sort of databank with mountains of phony entries, but if the data could be protected somehow from that sort of attack what a great thing that could be

something to think about i guess

 
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I think there's a much bigger message here, folks, and it goes far beyond whether this movie is a commercial. The bigger message is about the value of real food, and how the human body responds far better with fewer side effects and collateral damage with nutrition than certain types of high-tech medical procedures. That is the ultimate message that far outweighs what type of real-food treatment is being used, and places some measure of power back into the hands of those who feel so incredibly helpless when their health is compromised by disease.

The whole food approach to treating disease is dynamic, just like the human body, and can be tailored to meet that individual's needs. It doesn't carry a label or a barcode, it can be environmentally, ethnically, and ethically appropriate, and customised as the patient's needs change. Most importantly - much of it can be grown by the individual. Types of treatment like this cannot be patented, or mass produced by Merck/Monsanto, and that brings up the other reason little movies like this are important...they educate the public at an emotional and real ground-level. Big Pharma can't buy that kind of advertising.

For every one person who has improved their health or cured their disease using real, whole, organic food, Monsanto loses ten potential customers. That recovered patient impacts all their friends, family, and anyone who watches them fight their battle of disease. Those people will listen up when a GMO bill comes up for vote, or when they have a choice between organic, local produce or strawberries from Venezuela. Those folks will vote with their wallets and their hearts...at least I believe they will.

Small grassroots efforts, like this movie, contribute to the long-term goals many of us have here at permies.com; whether a person uses Gerson Therapy, or Dr. Terry Wahl's protocol, or Weston A. Price, Donna Eden...it doesn't matter. As long as they are grasping that the current treatment of the planet and our agricultural practices impact our health negatively, we greenies get a new member in the choir - and eventually, the change we want happens. I see it already happening in my clients, and I want more of it.
 
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By the way, Bill, thanks for the links - Amy and Sarah did email me back and we're trying to set up interview time for an article!
 
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Jennifer Jennings wrote:By the way, Bill, thanks for the links - Amy and Sarah did email me back and we're trying to set up interview time for an article!


Jennifer,

Glad to have been a help. Hopefully you get some good information from them.
 
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Strengthening the immune system through food is a powerful thing.

One of the interesting things with this is that often people who make changes need to be patient and cultivate a marathon approach. The degenerative disease often took years or decades to cultivate. While it is possible to experience dramatic results quickly from changing diet, it's important to realize the cumulative compounding effects of good nutrition take time.

Unfortunately the human brain responds well to "instant relief/cures." That's why pharmaceutical claims about "magic" pills can be so effective in driving sales. The same also works for more health conscious treatments and cures like with green smoothies, apitherapy, raw veganism, etc.

So in my opinion, healing with food can be both dramatic and quick & slow/cumulative in terms of results.

Best of luck on the documentary. Great work!

 
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In addition to the evidence for alternative therapies, including whole clean diet, being online for all to see and appreciate, I'd like to see a cheap, natural detection method become available..... and with results also posted online. I'd like to see lots and lots and lots of cases, to strengthen peoples' understanding of all the options out there.

Re: detection, I just ran across this, and I think wasps are also being trained as super scent detectors.

http://www.dogsdetectcancer.org/category/studies

With much earlier detection, I think lots of folks would be willing to try alternatives whose effectiveness is accessible online in the 'numbers'. And it would snowball
 
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In addition to the evidence for alternative therapies, including whole clean diet, being online for all to see and appreciate, I'd like to see a cheap, natural detection method become available..... and with results also posted online.


I wholeheartedly agree, Nancy. You might find this video interesting.

http://www.ted.com/talks/jack_andraka_a_promising_test_for_pancreatic_cancer_from_a_teenager.html

 
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a view from the other side, ie, of the poor, disabled, isolated point of view

http://disabilityintersections.com/2014/01/march-of-the-food-snobs/

March of the Food Snobs

People get very passionate about food. This is understandable, because when it’s good it can provide valuable nutrients to our body as well as cherished pleasure to our palates. But passion can become zeal and, before you know it, people are telling others how to eat. They are often well-meaning, when they evangelise about how easy it is to cut out gluten or become vegan, or how evil supermarkets or plastic packaging are, but they do not take into account the reality of many people’s lives.

The line between food enthusiasts and food snobs can be a thin one, and when, “It’s easier!”, “It’s cheaper!”, etc. drown out your insistence that the intersecting oppressions of disability, poverty, racism and fat-phobia play a part, then that line has been crossed.
 
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You have an excellent point, Duane, which is exactly why I believe permaculture can help the poor more than anyone else. Often the only food access they have is via bodegas, and there is no sound nutritional quality to it. The movement to bring nutrition to people takes many forms at many different levels (we argued this endlessly in my public health classes), but the key is accessibility for the individual. This is why community gardens and green space play such an important role for the poor; they educate people on how to achieve that change in their lives and health. This is what Ron Finley is so passionate about (and he walks the talk).

http://www.ted.com/talks/ron_finley_a_guerilla_gardener_in_south_central_la.html
 
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Duane, I think I have to take you to task. I should point out I’m very new to this forum (and its etiquette); I’ve already been purple-moosed once on this very thread. But I cannot let your post go unchallenged.

Consider the source. Who is Disability Intersections?
“ … a magazine with twice-weekly installments on disability issues, viewed through an intersectional lens. Disability Intersections explores disability in news, culture, society, and social justice movements; our contributors also discuss the role disability plays in their own lives. This magazine features vibrant intersectional voices exploring fresh, new, and challenging topics. We aim to push readers, and ourselves, further with each new installment.

Disability Intersections probes complex, structural, and institutional issues. We proactively build on the work of the disability rights movement and other social justice movements, honoring the work of those who have gone before us in our attempt to stimulate conversations that build a better world. We are proactive, not reactive, and our focus is on what lies below the surface of society, waiting to be unveiled.”


It seems to me that this magazine should be ALL-OVER and supportive of this Real-Food or Whole-Food subject. They should be buying up every last Kickstarter option to promote the message behind “The Food Cure” and especially Gerson Institute. Even though the Gerson’s have been fighting this battle for 70 years, it is still VERY much a “fresh, new, and challenging topic” that begs to be explored and exposed.

Who is the author of this article?
“ Philippa Willitts is a freelance writer and campaigner. She has a particular focus on disability and women’s issues, including the language of disability and stigma, and victim-blaming and consent. She believes passionately in the importance of recognising the intersections of privilege and oppression in her own life and applying these to a wider discourse of understanding the world. She has written for the Guardian, Independent, New Statesman and Channel 4 News websites, amongst others, and she is on the blogging collective of The F-Word feminist website. She lives in the north of England.”


I apologize for including her complete bio, but I feared leaving anything out might imply selective editing. I do not mean to be critical of this woman or her lifestyle, but - based on her own self-crafted biography - she has zero experience or credentials to discuss the pros or cons of a healthy Real-Food diet or what it can contribute to the prevention or cure of any disease. She is little more than a social commentator - a freelance writer and campaigner; NOT even an investigative journalist. Yet, her opinions on the social disabilities or snobbery in England my carry weight. But I challenge the credibility of her opinions when it comes to the American culture, our food movement, or the science behind the Gerson Institute.

I also found it interesting HOW she categorized this “March of the Food Snobs” article. Within her own website, she used just TWO keywords to describe it. Ableism & Classism.

Ableism == discrimination in favor of able-bodied people

Classism == prejudice against or in favor of people belonging to a particular social class

Duane, this is almost laughable. What the Real-Food movement and Gerson philosophy represent (at least in this country) is the exact opposite of either Ableism or Classism. I’ve never been to northern England; perhaps Food Snobbery is a serious social problem there - steeped in prejudice against the lower class, and riddled with discrimination against the disabled. (but I kind of doubt it)

I think this freelance writer was challenged by her editor to play a little devil’s advocate to incite their readers to return. IMO the entire article was very tongue-in-cheek. And your entire post was nothing more than a cut & paste from her article. I would seriously be interested in YOUR opinions about this subject. What are your feelings about a healthy diet? Do YOU think Real Food can affect our health by preventing or even curing diseases? Do YOU think this ‘sensitive’ subject should be discussed in public - sharing and exchanging ideas & opinions, recipes & remedies, heirloom seeds & gardening techniques? Or would that makes us SNOBS; prejudice against those outside ‘our class’ and discriminatory against those pesky disabled folks?

Did you have a chance to view “A Beautiful Truth”? What did you think about the conspiracy it suggests? Wouldn’t that be a “fresh, new, and challenging topic” for Phillippa to discuss?
 
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hi Jeff,

Consider the source. Who is Disability Intersections?
Who is the author of this article?
Duane, this is almost laughable.

why are we shooting messengers?

my intro
"a view from the other side, ie, of the poor, disabled, isolated point of view"

poor , disabled people
who use public transportation
eat what they can afford,
can haul back from the market
and prepare given their disabilities
so it is often easier to choose prepared foods

so instead of looking down on these people, we should help them with options
rather than telling them to eat more greens.

I think food is very important to health
but these people have trouble getting to the nearest Get-go, let alone a clinic in Mexico

a kickstarter on protocols for treatment would be worthwhile
a kickstarter for "how-to" guerilla gardening and community gardens for the poor would be worthwhile

but to tell people they need to "eat healthy to be healthy"
without giving them the ability to do so
isn't a worthwhile endeavor IMHO
 
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Sorry Duane, I guess that shot ricocheted off Phillippa and came dangerously close to you.
I know what you're saying - but I don't know that I agree:

but to tell people they need to "eat healthy to be healthy"
without giving them the ability to do so
isn't a worthwhile endeavor IMHO


I really do think that to be healthy you need to eat healthy. I mean it's almost a self-evident truth. And I think you agree:
I think food is very important to health


Wouldn't it actually be cruel NOT to tell someone (regardless of their social status or disability) of this truth ... this opportunity for a longer, healthier life ... the opportunity to avoid those huge, unaffordable medical treatments, pseudo Rx cures, and addictive painkillers. Isn't it possible that - in the long run - the best shot that the economically and/or physically challenged have at a healthy, happy life is through the benefits of a healthy diet?

That would be like you NOT telling me that my well is poisoned because you know I can't afford to drill a new one or to move. Please, tell me! The options and decisions are my business, not yours.

so instead of looking down on these people, we should help them with options
rather than telling them to eat more greens.


I am not looking down on anyone, nor do I think Sarah or the Gersons are. I think the Gersons have demonstrated nothing but respect for ALL peoples in their lifelong battles against the establishment's endeavors to sustain disease and profits. I think that eating more greens is one of their best options.

You know what - I can't afford the Gerson clinic in Mexico either. But what if Sarah's documentary "The Food Cure" is the catalyst that brings this treatment across the border; maybe brings it into every major metro; maybe opens the minds and doors of the healthcare industry? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile endeavor?

If food snobbery is talking about eating healthy, than I am a Food Snob. By talking - we share, we learn, we teach ... the stuff 'options' are born from.
But the converse - to keep secret the truths of good health, to NOT be a food snob - is unconscionable. IMHO
 
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I have also joined this Kickstarter because I follow you. Thank you for sharing this. You provide a great service.
 
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Thank you so much Paul for posting this and Sarah Mabrovk for this great work on cancer.

I worked as a chiropractor from 1979 until 1985 and worked on 100 people with end stage cancer. Only 2 died and one 8 hours after her first treatment. Almost all their cancers vanished. Cancer is easy to reverse by cleaning up the system, the human ecosystem is of course self healing given the slightest chance, which as many folks pointed out the american life style does not give much of a chance.

I need to say something about standard of practice as used in the medical world. This means i if you are doing something not considered standard of practice you need to tell your patients, have them sign waivers and even then they can might still come after you. Fortunately there was a lawyer in california that was puttng out waivers so i did not need to pay one myself. my patients all signed that i was not treating their cancer but was treated their whole body. Supposedly this protected me from a law suit which at the time i quit practicing in 1985 were very common against doctor's treating cancer. As a chiropractor i was not allowed by my profession to treat anything but backs. Of course the underlying philosophy in that profession is that if the spine is working properly disease will not exist.

I want to tell a story of one of my patients. She had a return of breast cancer 5 years later. it had metastasized so that she could not raise her arm past her shoulder. her sister who was a patient of mine asked me what she could say to her to encourage her to come in to see me. I said ask her to ask her doctor how long she has to live using his methods. the patent came right in after hearing her doctor's answer 2 months. We put her on our program of alkalizing the body with green drinks, energy healing to get all the body systems to flow, getting her to listen to what her body needed and most of all a program that encouraged her to life the live she wanted to live. This was very detailed and i took great care to start people slowly. I want you to do one thing today that your intuition tells you will nurture your core being. ask before you go to sleep at night what that might be and when your subconsious tells you what it is, please listen. I turned myself into a health coach so that they would report what was working to me.

But the most important part of this story is that about 3 months when all traces of her metasized cancer were gone, I asked her to tell her doctor what happened. She did not want to and I had to beg her 5 times to do this. (This was very unusual for me to keep on pushing people about their medical doctors. They want to keep their doctors on their side so they will do the follow up testing). She finally did and he told her that he was actually quitting his practice next month to go to a cancer treatment clinic in texas to practice these kinds of methods. She was outraged. Why didn’t you tell me? He said my hands are tied by my profession. If you had asked I could have answered (probably after the appropriate waivers).

I ended up stopping my practice for several reasons.

1) I wanted to take patient’s health out of the realm of doctors and put it under their own sovereignty. I started a program where rather than a doctor tells you what you need, clients helped each other find solutions for their illnesses. This worked amazingly well, where folks cured 30 years of digestive problems in one month with their team’s efforts. I believe that support for a healthy life style is the most important ingredient of a return to a balanced functioning ecosystem. This was in the early 90’s and people were shell shocked and a little put off to discover how their own efforts could work. I did not figure out how to work through this and get the program to support me financially so I went to gardening to support my own well being.
2) I was a serious patient advocate. I worked on a lot of insurance cases. I would tell patients when they came in that we had never taken more than 3 months to clean up health problems if folks would follow our program, which required a lot of life style changes. Most of them did not choose to do so. I believe that when their bodies got to the next level of health, which at that time I believed I could do just with the energy work, they would choose to make the life style changes. I would treat them often for years and then help them get a huge settlement. As soon as they got the settlement they would ask me what my 3 month program was. They would then follow it and get rid of their problem under 3 months time. I made a point to ask them if all that time of pain was worth the money they received. It was an immense amount of work for me to do fancy reports telling why the medical doctors who wanted to cut off their treatment were not correct.
3) I have always treated people for free if they could not pay. I found that most of these folks did not value my work and made even less life style changes.
4) I spent a lot of time supporting patient’s who called in the middle of the night. Now I would just put them on support teams so they could support each other, but was too busy at the time to come up with such an elegant solution.

I felt I needed to talk from the doctor’s standpoint how or medical system works.

One more thing I was at the Gersen Clinic in Tijuana, Mexico, not as a patient. I was advocating for a patient. None of the patient’s that I was helping lived. They all went down there at the very end of their cancer and I am sure results would have been better earlier. However was surprised at the top down doctor approach at the time I was there. There was little attention paid to the things I described above as key.

Okay back to the movie that Sarah is making. It looked terrific and a movie like this whether people follow through with the Gersen approach or not could really make a different in people's understanding of cancer, which is so important for this culture. It looks like they are definitely supporting healthy lifestyles.

Someone was mentioning that this looks like a promo for the gersen work. This brings up who in a capitalistic (or should I say corporatalist society makes movies for the general welfare. Mostly only the people who have something to gain spend the bucks. Maybe the complaint was that if it is a kick start event it should be less partisan.



 
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Dr Gonzales in NYC works with people with cancer and recommends a meat diet for some types of cancer and a vegan diet for other types of cancer. His protocol includes huge amounts of supplements and is very expensive for that reason. His research is on pancreatic enzymes, which make up the bulk of the supplements he recommends. I know a man who has had stage 4 lung cancer for several years and has done extremely well on Dr. Gonzales' regime. Dr. Gonzales recommended a raw meat diet for the man with lung cancer. Carol Alt is a long time patient and raw food celeb.

I eat a raw food diet of mostly raw dairy, raw meat, raw eggs, raw honey, raw coconut cream, berries, fruit juices and vegetable fruits (cucumbers, tomatoes). I have an advanced case of endometriosis and my diet has helped me live pain free for the last 10 years. I know it's the food because if I go back to eating cooked food, I get pain within a month or two. If someone can't stand the thought of eating raw meat and raw eggs, then I'd recommend that they check out Gerson or Dr. Gonzalez. I'd rather take therapeutic hot baths to move lymph and eat raw fat to help with absorbing detoxing than do a coffee (or any) enema, but would do coffee enemas before doing chemo.

 
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Thank you for mentioning this in the daily-ish email again Paul. I would have missed it if not for that. I'm glad to have the chance to support this topic getting a wider audience.
 
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Really good information on the "Gerson Method" here: http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-help/about-cancer/treatment/complementary-alternative/therapies/gerson-therapy

Cancer is a serious illness. Always consult your doctor.
 
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charlotte anthony wrote:
Someone was mentioning that this looks like a promo for the gersen work.


Your'e right, Charlotte, but that is not Mabrouk's fault - at least not entirely.

When I finished writing my article on Mabrouk's film, I had to amend it because of some misinformation. My conversations with Sarah's PR woman made it clear that it was not Sarah's intention to promote Gerson over any other alternative healing modality; however, the PR put out by the Gerson Foundation alluded that all the patients were using Gerson Therapy. Gerson had altered the original draft of their blog post to appear it to be so, and so I had to correct my article to reflect Mabrouk's intention. Fortunately, I tend to write impartially anyway, so I only had to change a few sentences.

That action on Gerson's part still irks me a bit. I believe they are doing great work, however, once you hop the fence between science and salesmanship...well, you sully your work in the end.

That said, Mabrouk has stuck by her guns and produced the film she felt was needed. Good on her.

I should also add that Charlotte Gerson's son, Howard Straus (interviewed in the film, and several others), has a weekly internet radio show on VoiceAmerica where he talks about Gerson Therapy. His pitch is almost evangelistic at times, making statements that depression, fibromyalgia, and many other chronic diseases can be "simply cured" in a matter of days on GT. While this may be the case with many people, more time than not there are no "simple" cures to what ails the human body. Our general schematics are all the same, but our biochemstry, ethnicity, and genetics make a health solution for us absolutely unique to each individual. His approach has begun to sound like that of Pfizer or AstraZeneca, and that is a slippery slope.
 
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TBH,Gerson are as far down the slope as it's possible to get. There is only one way to know if these "therapies" work - properly conducted scientific trials. Even advanced cancers can occasionally spontaneously regress, and these stories make great anecdotes, but you need to look beyond this to the actual data. Turns out that cancer is really diverse, very hard to treat, and there is no simple answer, no matter how appealing "alternatives" may be marketed as.

People have a right to hear the real science, and where there isn't any, or it's being missold, they need to know that. Flowers and rainbows sell a lot of shit, and that is as true for Big Alt Med as it is for Big Pharma and Big Food.

Before supporting something like this (and don't get me wrong - good nutrition is a vital part of any medical treatment), I would strongly recommend reading Bad Science by Ben Goldacre. It's a brilliant read, and outlines the science behind knowing *what works* really well (which is why every permaculturist should read it

Http://www.badscience.net
 
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I have not read Ben Goldacre's book. I did go to his website and listened to his 20 minute TED talk (2011). I agree with Shane and Ben that we all DO need to be very wary of all tests, trials and scientific findings. However, it does NOT appear that Goldacre is down on alternative, holistic or natural medicines - he is down on ALL medical procedures and pharmaceuticals that lack bona fide tests and trials. It is true that in 2004 Ben Goldacre wrote a short article addressing some side affects from 1986 that MAY have resulted from the Gerson Therapy. But don't loose sight of the hundreds of articles he's written decrying conventional medical and pharmaceutical studies, practices, contradictions, side affects and deaths. His entire 2011 TED talk was focused on CONVENTIONAL medical procedures, tests and findings.

Turns out that cancer is really diverse, very hard to treat, and there is no simple answer, no matter how appealing "alternatives" may be marketed as.


I agree with Shane. But likewise: there is no simple answer, no matter how appealing "conventional procedures" may be marketed as. And you know they are. They are marketed FAR more aggressively than the Gerson Therapy. And in my opinion - are even further down that slope than the Gerson's. Just count the number of pink ribbons worn by professional athelets, sports casters and fans at any one of dozens of pro-foot ball games. THEN go and examine the number of carcinogenic foods and beverages that are sold (by the tons) at those same games. (Or just try to find ONE non-carcinogenic product.) Could the Susan G. Komen foundation slip any further down that slope?
 
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Having just been warned by Shane and Ben Goldacre to be wary of published information that lacks credible documentation - I went back and reread the anti-Gerson article from the registered UK charity, Cancer Research UK. It included over 2000 words, innuendos and implications attempting to discredit the Gerson Therapy - WITHOUT ONE SINGLE reference to their sources. Seriously, we could take all of their unsubstantiated, libelous, propaganda at face value -- OR we can do as Goldacre suggests and hold them accountable to journalistic and scientific practices of a simple bibliography and/or references.

Heck, even Wikipedia's article on the Gerson Therapy lists 21 references, 6 bibliographies, and 2 external links.
Cancer Research UK: ZERO But there is one link. Where does it link to? Their very own website that lists (or advertizes) their choice of "Complementary Therapy Organizations".

And "yes"
Cancer is a serious illness. Always consult your doctor.
I am not aware that the Gersons, Sarah or Jennifer have EVER suggested anything less. (I'll assume that's not what you meant to imply.)
 
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