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"You must be the change you want to see in the world." "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
"Preach the Gospel always, and if necessary, use words." --Francis of Assisi.
"Family farms work when the whole family works the farm." -- Adam Klaus
Kevin Mace wrote:Another idea is to use fresh wood chips for walking paths between garden rows (and anywhere else around the property). I dig a trench/ditch for my 2' paths (about 8" deep) and fill them with wood chips. This creates micro-swales which harvests water. It also suppresses weeds. The next year I dig this wood mulch up and place it on top of my garden. I then put new mulch in the paths. I'm on year two of this and it worked well.
Mark wrote: It is hard to say from your picture, so i must ask...did your top soil they sold you seem more like soil or more like a shredded wood product?
Kevin wrote:My only problem with the "Back to Eden" video is that he doesn't talk much about time. That soil that he is planting into has been developed over many years and is very rich. It is so rich that it can handle using fresh wood chips as mulch. The average soil, even from a garden center, cannot.
Ce wrote:Climate? Ag zone? Rainfall?
R wrote:One of the little critical details glossed over in the film is the TYPE of woodchips. He gets chipped prunings mainly from powerline trimming--they have a LOT of green in them, both leaves and growing branches, and very little "wood." NOT what you get when you go buy wood mulch.
Justin wrote:I think you're correct on the soil analysis idea. Take a look at what you're underlying soil is. The woodchips are acting as a mulch and have very little impact on the nutrients available to plants for the first few seasons. Are your soil tests of the underlying soil? Or the soil + woodchips? Out of curiosity, what is your base soil like (i.e. the soil below the cardboard)?
Kevin wrote:The next year I dig this wood mulch up and place it on top of my garden.
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John wrote:I am assuming that you planted through the chips and cardboard and into the soil. Is there are reason you did not just plant into the existing soil?
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Mark wrote:However, if you are going to add manure, then you'll need to pull the chips back.
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Kolomona Myer wrote:I plan on pulling the chips back and spreading rabbit manure then replacing the chips. Then liberally spreading the manure tea atop the chips. I think this will help speed the decomposition of the woody materials. Then instead of more wood chips I think I should use straw for mulch (as long as I can source some straw without toxic gick), maybe alternate between straw and wood chips each year.
I will also be planting nitrogen fixing annuals this year.
Hopefully this works, I had a very disappointing gardening year last year and I really don't want a repeat.
Thanks for all the help!
https://LibreLeafAcres
Theodosia, MO
USDA Zone: 6b (-5 to 0 °F/-20.6 to -17.8 °C)
I am a super research nerd. Any advise given is worth precisely what you paid for it. Your mileage may vary, proceed at your own risk, I could be full of poo and completely wrong, feel free to ignore me completely.
To understand permaculture is simply to look at how nature has been growing things for thousands of years. The 'secret' is simply to keep the soil covered with plants or mulch.
Gardening is a growing business.
Jackie Neufeld wrote:[size=12]I am soooo thankful that I don't have to do so much weeding! Now we have time, and see how we are building the soil to the point that we are now wanting to expand our whole 1/4 acre into edible landscaping. Just wish I knew someone who was a good garden designer for edible landscaping so that it looked beautiful and inviting plus provided food.
Thanks for the suggestion to pull back the chips and add rabbit manure. We have one rabbit and that rabbit produces a fair bit in one year. Hmmm, maybe we can get more.
I have a dream to help struggling families, especially families with kids start their own garden. Anyone know of anyone doing that? I like the Back to Eden because once it's established it seems you only need to keep adding wood chips and Paul says he adds about 10% chicken manure on top.
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Michael Vormwald wrote:If you watch closely at the BTE video (and/or watch subsequent video's of Paul Gauschi's garden) you will see that although he once did, Paul does not use wood chips in his garden.
http://notquitethereyethomestead.blogspot.com/ --On the highway going from here to there the question is oft asked "are we there yet". The oft given answer is "not quite yet". So it goes with life and with my little piece of it. This is my story. I get to tell it my way. I hope you enjoy it.
Tina Paxton wrote:
Michael Vormwald wrote:If you watch closely at the BTE video (and/or watch subsequent video's of Paul Gauschi's garden) you will see that although he once did, Paul does not use wood chips in his garden.
The video glosses over several things:
1. He started with grass clippings and straw before he turned to wood chips
2. His "wood chips" are tree tops, not tree trunks
3. He now uses "soil" created by his chickens -- not sure if he still uses wood chips?? I think he does but not exclusively.
Rather than purchase bales of straw or hay -- empty those mower bags of clippings on the garden! If you have neighbors who do not pour chemicals on their lawn--get their clippings!
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