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Janne Lassila
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Hello!

I was wondering why we don't share seeds inside the scandinavia (or people who are interested to do so from outside), so I started this topic. If there is already one, please excuse me!
And by Scandinavia I of course mean the Nordic countries .

So what do people have/need? I am foraging for wild japanese quinces (Chaenomeles japonica) this fall, already know few good places, so their seeds I can definetely send. Apple scion wood I could send also, I love our old tree and it's taste. I collected also siberian pea shrub seeds, if anybody is interested?
Since I don't have that much to send, I am willing to pay a little bit for seeds of course. Especially if someone has hardy quinces (genus Cydonia) , I'd be MOST iterested. Also all kinds of nuts are things that interest me.

Regards, Janne from Southwestern Finland
 
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Wow, this is a great opportunity!

Some of my favourite seeds are from Finland.  I don't know what to call them, but basically, they are a kind of turnip that grows in recently cleared land and likes ash in the soil.  These are ready to eat in 4 to 6 weeks.  I think it's because there is such a short time between frosts, many Finnish plants are quick to mature.  Does this sound right?
 
Janne Lassila
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Could the plant be Brassica rapa, or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga ; ? It has been grown traditionally in recently burned areas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-burn)  , very old type of farming in Finland.
Those seeds I don't need back though .
 
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Janne Lassila wrote:Could the plant be Brassica rapa, or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga ; ? It has been grown traditionally in recently burned areas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-burn)  , very old type of farming in Finland.
Those seeds I don't need back though .


It could be.  I call them Ash-neeps because I don't understand the Finnish name.  They taste very sweet like turnips, they grow about 3 to 4 inches across, and are very flat, almost like someone sat on them.  They make the most amazing pickled turnips.  
 
Janne Lassila
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That's the one.  AMAZING TURNIPS (or turnip like objects).

I guess my point is that Finland has great seeds! 

I'll have a look in my seed collection and see what I have that might work for you.
 
Janne Lassila
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I collected these japanese quinces today, and I'm about to make marmelade this monday from some. I will have LOTS of those seeds to give away. Some are of thornless variety 'Sirius' , cultivated in Finland, others are from an unknown bush with thorns. Still, they produced quite nicely those thorned ones (majority of this is that).
I am trying to get northern variety of good nut trees, persimmons, true quinces, paw paws, and dream of growing a truebreed red mulberry one day here.
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Hi  Janne😀, we are living about 35 klm from Savonlinna. Seed swap....brilliant, love it.
We grow most of our own veggies and the usual friuts,but not Japanese Quince,so we would love to give it a try.
We do have seeds but they are  flowers and veg. I can send a list if you are interested😀.
I would love a mulberry and some nut trees, but I think we are just too far north.
We have chickens and sheep, we grow extra winter squash for the sheep and pretty much everything else goes to the chickens😉.

 
Janne Lassila
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Yeah, drop me a list of anything edible, for now I don't want to grow flowers. Well except something that attracts the bees!
I think that white mulberry might do okay there...and nuts, well,  just check http://www.taimet.net  ; , for some nut trees around you..veery close .

-Janne
 
Janne Lassila
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Gonna bump this up again, did you R Ranson and Nicola have some seeds, or is it too early still?

 
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In Norway, we have a group called Plantearven- or plant heritage.( It is currently in the business of changing its name thought.) It saves and grows heritage-plants
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1391231524517621
It might not be helpful for other countries, but worth a look for other Norwegians.

Maybe we should find, or start, a joint nordic group for seed exchange? Set rates for sending seeds in the mails and such? Whaddya think?
Anyone here who knows anything about any such groups already existing?
 
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I think it would be an excellent idea to unify our seed saving efforts here in the North...after all, we have quite unique climate being so north and relatively warm (compared to Alaska for example). And also to inform others of new and hardy cultivars, and how-and-where to get them. For example I just found out that there is a swedish cultivar of mulberry, morus 'Mulle' , that is close to morus nigra. And should be hardy enough for me to try it. But how and where to get it? My swedish is rusty enough that I for one can't be sure what nurseries will send plants abroad, even if we are neighbours .
You know, all these things would be super!
With a quick google I found this : https://myfolia.com/groups/539-nordic-seed-savers-and-swappers/swaps?page=1
But I am afraid that there are only few users. And of course dave's garden provides seed, plant and cuttings excange, but even there it is hard to find fellow nordics. SO should we form our own Facebook page, or try to activate existing ones?

-Janne
 
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The page you linked to looks promising! The group has only 3 members it seems, so it would need a lot of new members to be efficient. But so would a new group.

Personally, I would like to breathe life back in existing groups, and help those, rather than start a new "competing" group
 
Janne Lassila
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Well I say let's do it and breathe life into it! I am going to try and apply something to exchange.
 
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It's definitely worth a try
I'm going to register too.
 
Lou Myriddn
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Make that 4! Hello all, a Scottish/Norwegian islander here
Really interested in the concept of seed exchange, but also native traditional build methods, friendship, being an extra pair of hands on projects etc
 
Janne Lassila
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Great to have you along. I for one would like to travel and give my helping hand in building something. Excellent way to meet people, I think.
 
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Hi Janne,
Thanks!
I agree, I'm working hard at the moment to secure funding for land, expecting to be able to purchase in the next 12 months and hoping to be able to subdivide it to allow a small community to develop. I'm very keen on exploring traditional farming (livestock, husbandry, and native arboriculture) and building methods to allow for the study of sustainable housing (ie full turn-key price of under 50k) and hope to meet and exchange with similar minds in our lovely 'north' it often is a lonely journey learning it by yourself!
Lou (louise)
 
Janne Lassila
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I wish you best of luck in finding suitable lands! I guess I am lucky, since I come from a farm(ish) place in the archipelago of Finland, and have plenty of fields to try different plantings etc. I've planted many nut and fruit trees, and going to plant even more, so I guess I am kind of preparing that place for me after my dad, for one reason or another, doesn't want to keep living there. For now I reside in Helsinki, where there are opportunities for green building and designing peoples yards more...ahem..permaculturish ways. Well at least that's my plan when I graduate as a gardener .
-Janne
 
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Thank you
It sounds beautiful (your home), a lot for you to care for but its amazing to hear of your love for it!
The island where I am from is very hard to buy land, sadly it is very expensive due to the tourist trade, however I know the piece of land I am meant to look after is out there waiting for me somewhere, I just have got to find it and the people who will benefit from it too
I loved being able to spend lots of time in Finland a few years ago, truly a magical place, and from my readings today it seems an excellent place to farm!
If you ever need help when you return home after you graduate I'd be more than happy to help!
I'm working in the UK at the moment for a young persons charity (saving money) and hope to in the future be able to help as many people as possible
It's lovely getting to know people here!
Louise x
 
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Ps Facebook group sounds an excellent idea
 
Janne Lassila
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I'll post this here, and also in the folia Nordic seed swap group: Yesterday I was going to lunch, but I opened the wrong door (the restaurant was the next door), only to find that I had ventured to a vegetarian cafe that served lunch made from food that they ordered from a local farm, directly. And there sat one of the gardeners of that farm. He had a red beard, I have a red beard, we talked. In the end he gave me 2 kilos of broad beans (Vicia faba), cultivar 'Kontu', a Finnish cultivar. He gave it for free! Said "here's something to grow".

Soo now I have really a lot more broad beans than I could possibly need in my gardens! I'm open for a swap, especially in different cultivars, since I want to try landracing that (thanks for J. Lofthouse, you are an inspiration!). Of course I am very keen to get anything else too

-Janne
 
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yup beware blokes with red beards

says man with red beard

David
 
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