People typically reference & regard the TAMU knowledge-base as a reputable source however, when referencing their fruit and nut fact sheets for plums & stone fruits, I've found a section pertaining to hybrids which is quite troubling to me.. frankly it seems like a lazy generalization. The section to which i'm referring is seen below:
"Prunus Hybrids: Many Prunus hybrids are available, namely plum by apricot and vice versa; commonly known as “plumcots,” “pluots,” or “apriums,” depending on the breeding program that released them (Fig. 12). In Texas they have been disappointing. So far none are winter hardy, all suffer from bacterial canker infestation, and few have produced adequately..."
The hybrids such as pluots have been distributed commercially for several years now, probably at least a decade. Has anyone grown plum hybrids (pluot, plumcot, aprium) in Texas with success? And if so, has anyone performed this in the DFW metroplex?
Womack nursery sells some of these hybrid varieties and people typically trust these folks to sell varieties which do well in TX - so who is telling the truth, Womack or TAMU? When I read the TAMU content, it always feels like it's influenced by old-timers who are stuck in the 20th century whereby only decades old fruit varieties are recommended..
Thanks in advance!
My recommendation is to buy the fruit you like and bury the seeds with your kitchen scraps where you want the trees. In a few years at least a few of them willbe producing the fruit you want and the others wil be rootstock to graft the best onto.
Dave Bojangles wrote: people typically trust these folks to sell varieties which do well in TX - so who is telling the truth, Womack or TAMU?
I can't say that I have tried these varieties or purchased from Womack's.
We have purchased a lot of fruit tree failures. It is my opinion that it is buyer beware. Even when I have done lots of research into fruit tree varieties, how to grow them, etc..Our last failure was a methly plum.
I would trust Tx A & M before I would trust a commercial vendor.
I also would trust the information from University AG extensions over a retailer.
While I am not in your region, the fruits like your weather alot more than mines.
Overall they tend to not need alot of winter chill hours, don't like late frost, tend to prefer a less humid air and dont mind the summer heat.
Anne Miller wrote:...We have purchased a lot of fruit tree failures. It is my opinion that it is buyer beware. Even when I have done lots of research into fruit tree varieties, how to grow them, etc..Our last failure was a methly plum...
This is good information, thanks Anne. I noticed you're in Zone 8a, are you in texas?
Anne Miller wrote:... I would trust Tx A & M before I would trust a commercial vendor.
James Freyr wrote:...I also would trust the information from University AG extensions over a retailer.
I know the comment was made who should i trust however, this was only stated rhetorically, and is not the the primary question of the thread. However, for what it's worth i would also note that there are experienced gardeners in the area such as Neil Sperry who have suggested that Womack carry trusted varieties.
The primary question i'm asking is the following:
"Has anyone grown plum hybrids (pluot, plumcot, aprium) in Texas with success?"
When the university source makes broad and sweeping generalizations, I question the amount of research being conducted in this regard. This is why i'm reaching out to a community such as this one to understand the reality and what people are truly experiencing. I want to know if their claim that these varieties cannot be grown in Texas with success is true
If I had the option, which I don't, and really wanted fruit trees then I would find a nursery that guaranteed their trees and have them plant them.
I looked at Womack's website and saw no guarantees or claims, other than they have been around a long time. I would expect that they have quality trees. Their "Aprium, Pluot and Pluerry" sure look tasty.
Mr. Bojangles, Love that song!
I plan to choose 3 varieties of trees for a multi planting strategy.. I'm thinking that maybe I'll balance my selection amongst tested varieties such as methley or Santa Rosa and the less tested varieties such as the pluots.
I'll have to document the success or failure of the pluots as I'm not finding very much content in this regard as it relates to DFW. I suppose typically gardeners might garden to get away from things like the internet, so I'm sure more folks have tried these, I'm just struggling to find their testimonials online.
We also have a nice apricot tree, some blossoms, but NO fruit.
The chill hours are the problem. You have to have low chill hour trees for a warm winter, but if the winter is cold, you get nada.
We have had great success with citrus, peaches, and pears. If you live near the gulf coast, you should have Bob Randall's book.
After hearing that i told him i needed 4 pecan, 6 peach, 4 persimmon, 4 fig, 2 pear, this is where i live, id like you to pick the specific type.
I had the best non failure rate in the few years ive been planting. One persimmons died but came up from the roots. So i lost 0 out of a couple dozen trees.
As far as the hybrid, i planted one in central texas. It is still alive after 4 years. It was large when i bought it. Like 6ft tall. It was confused, blooming in fall instead of spring. Then after that 12" rain in 2 days (2 years sgo?)it got a fungus. Leaves turned brown and fell off. I did nothing to heal it. It survived but no fruit yet.