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Kazakhstan Apple Seeds, Grape Seeds and Sour Cherry

 
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USDA order link for Kazakhstan Apple seeds, Sour Cherry and Grapes.    

Please send requests for plant material and/or information to:

Dr. C. Thomas Chao
Horticulturist/Curator for Apple and Tart Cherry
USDA, ARS
Plant Genetic Resources Unit
630 West North Street
Geneva, New York, 14456-0462

To see the catalog and print an order form follow the link

Malus Catalog 2018-2019 Distribution Year
 
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Just an update.  I started a pack of the Silvestri seeds (Kazakhstan Apple).  Let the fun begin.  The seeds are germinating at a different rate so I just transplant them as they look viable.  

I can't wait to see how these babies do in the forest.

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Looks great Scott!

Excited to see how they turn out!

I hope to plant mine in the next week or two!
 
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Steve Thorn wrote:Looks great Scott!

Excited to see how they turn out!

I hope to plant mine in the next week or two!



Thanks!  I will keep my fingers crossed that they are somewhat immune to Cedar Apple Rust.  I have high hopes.
 
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This order form is pretty large. Where do I start? I would just like 1-3 of species of seeds to start trees for my backyard. Are all the ones listed edible? Are there apple seeds in this collection known to be true to parent or do they diverge?

I am also a bit intimidated by the writing that's saying I need an import permit. How do I get started with that?
 
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[quote=Mac Kugler]This order form is pretty large. Where do I start? I would just like 1-3 of species of seeds to start trees for my backyard. Are all the ones listed edible? Are there apple seeds in this collection known to be true to parent or do they diverge?

I am also a bit intimidated by the writing that's saying I need an import permit. How do I get started with that?[/quote]


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Hi Mac,  

I agree that the list is overwhelming.

Contact  

Dawn Dellefave via e-mail. Dawn.Dellefave@ars.usda.gov

She can either answer your questions or direct you to the right person.   She was very helpful.  

 
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Just a quick update on these Khazies.

We have had a lot of rain this year 26.9" by early June and that can really affect the severity of fungal infections.

Some of these saplings are affected by cedar apple rust.  Some more than others, but I can see that there is more resistance than I've seen in cloned apples.  It isn't scientific but sexual reproduction versus cloning seems to have an effect.  

More good news.  I have an heirloom apple that's been in the ground five years and it has apples on it for the first time.  I'm also getting apples on a young crab which I didn't expect to be fruiting yet.  Overall I think the wet spring is going to make for a productive year.  Everything from alpine strawberries to bush cherry are

loaded with fruit.

Cheers, Scott
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Scott Foster wrote:Everything from alpine strawberries to bush cherry are

loaded with fruit.

Cheers, Scott



Scott, what kind of bush cherries do you have?
 
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Trace,

My Bush Cherries are Hansen's and Carmine Jewel.  I planted Adam's and John's Elderberry at the same time.  They shouldn't actually be fruiting yet?  I'm not sure why they are as they haven't been in the ground but a year.


Both bushes are self-pollinating but I planted two of each.  Purchased them via Stark Bro's because I couldn't find them anywhere else..actually got on their mailing list so I would know when they came back in stock.
 
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Scott Foster wrote:Trace,

My Bush Cherries are Hansen's and Carmine Jewel.  I planted Adam's and John's Elderberry at the same time.  They shouldn't actually be fruiting yet?  I'm not sure why they are as they haven't been in the ground but a year.


Both bushes are self-pollinating but I planted two of each.  Purchased them via Stark Bro's because I couldn't find them anywhere else..actually got on their mailing list so I would know when they came back in stock.



I put in Romeo, Juliet, and Carmin Jewel this year.  Can't wait to see how they do.  I just put in 6 Nanking cherries too.  I have a couple regular, standard cherry trees, but I'm very excited about the bush cherries.
 
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I'd like to plant the Romeo and Juliet. I will have to look them up.   The Carmine is supposed to be a good eater.  The hansen, not so much but I'm going for biodiversity and I figure it can be used in baking or as a blend for ciders.   My favorite hard cider has black currant which I noticed is also fruiting.  I think the worm is starting to turn in certain parts of the forest.  I can feel a little synergy ramping up.    

I'm the only one in the house that likes cherries.  Can you believe that.

I planted a stella  sweet and a black tartarian.  If the truth be known I want at least one of everything.  Bwa Ha Ha!
 
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Scott Foster wrote:I'd like to plant the Romeo and Juliet. I will have to look them up.   The Carmine is supposed to be a good eater.  The hansen, not so much but I'm going for biodiversity and I figure it can be used in baking or as a blend for ciders.   My favorite hard cider has black currant which I noticed is also fruiting.  I think the worm is starting to turn in certain parts of the forest.  I can feel a little synergy ramping up.    

I'm the only one in the house that likes cherries.  Can you believe that.

I planted a stella  sweet and a black tartarian.  If the truth be known I want at least one of everything.  Bwa Ha Ha!



You sound like me :)  I also planted Black Tartarian this spring.

I got Carmine Jewel, Romeo, and Juliet from Honeyberry USA.  They came quickly and look like nice healthy plants.
 
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I think my favourite is the Montmorency.  Small cherries, but excellent flavour.
 
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Timothy Markus wrote:I think my favourite is the Montmorency.  Small cherries, but excellent flavour.



They are on my list
 
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Thanks for the info on the Kazakh seeds.  I just finished reading Akiva Silver's book and he mentioned that you could get these seeds sent to you, but I was having trouble locating them online.  

I emailed Dawn yesterday and got my name on file for some fall time mailing.

Glad to see that you got some going and are helping to expand the genetic pool!
 
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