Permaculture Inner-circle Elite (PIE)

PIE people get all the regular goodies for PIE peeps, plus, for next seven days or so:

 - the rocket oven movie
 - the greenhouse movie
 - the willow feeder movie
 - low tech movie
 - low tech 2 movie
 - berm shed movie
 - tour movie
 - podcast gob 601-640

Everybody who already has PIE can get it now. Enjoy!

If you don't yet have PIE:  https://permies.com/pie

(just trying to find ways to pay the bills for the forums ...)

Hi! Do you get to keep the movies, or are they just available to you while you have pie? Thanks!

paul wheaton wrote:PIE people get all the regular goodies for PIE peeps, plus, for next seven days or so:

 - the rocket oven movie
 - the greenhouse movie
 - the willow feeder movie
 - low tech movie
 - low tech 2 movie
 - berm shed movie
 - tour movie
 - podcast gob 601-640

Everybody who already has PIE can get it now. Enjoy!

If you don't yet have PIE:  https://permies.com/pie

(just trying to find ways to pay the bills for the forums ...)

Why not buy some PIE and find out?

Anne Miller wrote:Why not buy some PIE and find out?

Damn good answer!

Shannon Kim wrote:Hi! Do you get to keep the movies, or are they just available to you while you have pie? Thanks!

They are available for seven (now six) days!

Streaming.  Not downloads.

So, please don't price me out of my ability to help, we all need seed and tractor money left to do this stuff, and I don't want to have to choose.

2026 here, and a one month membership is only $10. Affordable, yes!

As we try to cover our ever growing expenses for this site, we have two new ideas for PIE.  I wanna talk about these two things and see if anybody has any additional ideas.

PIE-idea-333:   PIE peeps get 3 upvotes and 2 downvotes for each post.  

PIE-idea-334:   high-res images are for PIE peeps only

Feedback?

New ideas?

The world is changing.  Our costs are going up, and our income streams are shrinking.   I like that we have very little advertising - and what little we have is very on topic.  

We created the PIE stuff with the idea that it would, eventually, pay all the expenses.  Not there yet!  

How close are you that mark, Paul? Fully supported by PIE, I mean.

Also, what about PIE crumbs?

$1 per crumb, gets you access to PIE forum for a month (week?), but not the downloads and discounts.

Could have a scaled benefits ladder per crumb, too, if you felt like it.

Chance Lunceford wrote:How close are you that mark, Paul? Fully supported by PIE, I mean.

My guess is that PIE stuff currently covers about 7% of our costs.  I am thinking that if we can do a few more things, maybe we can get that up to 30% or 40%.

Some people are motivated by responsibility rather than elite status or privileges or benefits. I think maybe a banner ad, “Donate to keep Permies running” or the like, could make a significant difference.

Permies as it is is a public service of sorts. I think this is one of the things contributing to its popularity and thus to spreading permaculture around the world. It benefits everyone who comes here. I think it’s important to at least have a good enough quality for non-pie people, even if only so they like things here enough to stick around. Maybe then they start buying Pie.

I know of two sites, Duolingo and Wikipedia, that both started free and headed in different directions. I used to like using Duolingo, a language learning site, until it became so commercialized with pop-ups to upgrade to paid status and full of ads that I was turned off. I could have trusted them to make things less awful, but my trust had been eroded by this and I stopped using it. Wikipedia, on the other hand, maintains a high quality for everyone and is maintained by donations from people who pay because they like the site as it is and want to keep it that way.

M Ljin says.....

 Some people are motivated by responsibility rather than elite status or privileges or benefits. I think maybe a banner ad, “Donate to keep Permies running” or the like, could make a significant difference.  

I like the perks with pie but would not have subscribed to pie for those alone ...I really want to see the site succeed far into the future.
I was lucky to get in on pie before the cost went up or I would not have been able to afford though.

Maybe if we could hear actual cost of running things and get some realisitic figure on cost per member?  Maybe it would not be very much at all if most everyone pitched in a few bucks once a year or so?

PBS had a yearly $60 fee....wikipedia is asking just under $3 a year so we try to give $10 a year.

M Ljin...we were both big fans of duolingo and dropped it when it became too annoying.

What if there was a progress bar that showed the % of estimated current monthly costs paid for by PIE (also this month), and another bar which showed last months bar as a target to beat?