Search...
Home Subscribe
Pie
Home Subscribe
Recent topics Flagged topics Hot topics Best topics
Search...
Search within pep-nest Search permies
Advance search Google search
Register / Login
rocket mass heater
Garden Master Kickstarter
launching soon! To get the earlybird goodies, click "notify me on launch" HERE.
Discussion Earlybird goodies Kickback
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
Permaculture bootcamp with people wielding tools Build your own pizza oven! SKIP=SKills to Inherit Property PEP Permaculture Experience According to Paul Full online Permaculture Design course video Better Wood Heat DIY Rocket Mass Heater DVD
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Anne Miller
  • Pearl Sutton
  • r ranson
  • Nicole Alderman
stewards:
  • Leigh Tate
  • paul wheaton
  • Greg Martin
master gardeners:
  • Carla Burke
  • Jay Angler
  • John F Dean
  • Nancy Reading
gardeners:
  • Beau Davidson
  • thomas rubino
  • Edward Norton

Grease Hinges - PEP BB nest.sand.hinges

BB nest - sand badge
posted 3 years ago
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Nest.

In this Badge Bit, you will grease the hinges of a door.  


(source: Amazon)

Some articles on caring for wooden kitchen utensils
  - How to Lubricate Door Hinges
  - How to Lubricate a Squeaky Door
  - How to Silence a Squeking Hinge
  - Door Repair 101: How to Fix a Squeaky Door Hinge, Gaps, and More







To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - grease hinges on one door
      - lithium grease or food based fats that are solid at room temperature
      - maybe some sanding of the door
      - maybe micro bending or adjusting of hinges to improve alignment

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, provide proof of the following as pics or video (less than two minutes):
   - the door hinges before
   - an action shot of you greasing the door hinges
   - the greased door hinges
   - state or show the lubricant you used
COMMENTS:
 
Mike Haasl
steward
Posts: 13126
Location: Northern WI (zone 4)
3736
3
I like...
hunting trees books food preservation solar woodworking
posted 2 years ago
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Approved submission
I ran around the house and greased all the sqeakers I could find.  Medicine cabinet door, two interior doors and two exterior doors.  I used WD-40 brand white lithium grease in a spray can.  I believe normal WD-40 isn't actually a lubricant so I didn't use it.  I was successful by just spraying the knuckle of the hings from the inside with tiny sprays at each gap with a quick wipe up with a cloth.  One door was also squeaking due to some loose hinge screws that I tightened.
Medicine-cabinet-hinge-before.jpg
Medicine cabinet hinge before
Medicine cabinet hinge before
Bonus-door-1-after.jpg
Bonus door #1 after
Bonus door #1 after
Hinge-greasing-in-action.jpg
Hinge greasing in action
Hinge greasing in action
Medicine-cabinet-hinge-after.jpg
Medicine cabinet hinge after
Medicine cabinet hinge after
Bonus-door-1-before.jpg
Bonus door #1 before
Bonus door #1 before
Grease-I-used.jpg
Grease I used
Grease I used

SKIP books, get 'em while they're hot!!! Skills to Inherit Property

Staff note (Dave Burton) :

I hereby certify this BB as complete!

 
paul wheaton
steward
Posts: 39648
Location: missoula, montana (zone 4)
∞
I like...
hugelkultur trees chicken wofati bee woodworking
posted 2 years ago
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I never knew there was a spray on lithium grease.  All this time, I've been popping the hinge pin and smearing grease in.

Does it last?

My book, my movies, my videos, my podcasts, my events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!

 
Mike Haasl
steward
Posts: 13126
Location: Northern WI (zone 4)
3736
3
I like...
hunting trees books food preservation solar woodworking
posted 2 years ago
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I'm not sure, this is the first time I tried it.  The previous owner left it along with a box full of other lubricants and solvents so I thought I'd give it a try.  So far it's working great.  I'm sure the longevity depends on how out of alignment the hinges are.  More friction probably means more frequent greasing.

SKIP books, get 'em while they're hot!!! Skills to Inherit Property

 
paul wheaton
steward
Posts: 39648
Location: missoula, montana (zone 4)
∞
I like...
hugelkultur trees chicken wofati bee woodworking
posted 2 years ago
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Here it is on amazon https://amzn.to/34A4H9D - 4.5 stars.  I have to think that the spray cannot be as good as the smear ( https://amzn.to/33h7yUD - 4.7 stars) just because the spray has to have something to thin the grease to deliver it, and then try to quickly evaporate away.   Did it smell awful?

My book, my movies, my videos, my podcasts, my events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!

 
Mike Haasl
steward
Posts: 13126
Location: Northern WI (zone 4)
3736
3
I like...
hunting trees books food preservation solar woodworking
posted 2 years ago
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I'm guessing from a pure lubrication perspective the spray probably isn't as good as the smear.  But from a penetration perspective it sure seems to work its way into cracks and joints. I did a tiny squirt (by sound more than by eye) into the knuckle joints of the hinge from the inside.  Wiped off any excess with a rag and opened/closed the door twice.  The squeak was usually gone on the first close.

Due to its penetrating style, it seems like a good lube for the latching part of a trailer hitch or garage door rollers.  Or anything you don't or can't get apart easily.

I don't recall a smell at all.  Or if there was one it was minor.  Nothing like WD-40 (which is my favorite smell).

SKIP books, get 'em while they're hot!!! Skills to Inherit Property

 
Shane DeMeulenaere
Posts: 20
Location: Ann Arbor, MI Great Lakes region, USA zone 6a
13
3
I like...
foraging food preservation medical herbs
posted 2 years ago
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Does anyone know about the toxicity of white lithium grease? I'm hesitant to apply something like this to our door hinges (which are within reach of our children) without first checking for toxicity. Or for that matter, does anyone know of obviously non-toxic substitutes for this application? I'm thinking that some mixture of animal fats might do the trick. I remember reading somewhere that beef tallow was the go-to lubricant for steam engines back in the day. My first guess would be a mix of beef tallow and lard might work well, though I don't know how it would age.

Shane

 
Nicole Alderman
master steward
Posts: 19383
Location: Pacific Northwest
9633
7
I like...
hugelkultur kids cat duck forest garden foraging fiber arts sheep wood heat homestead
posted 2 years ago
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
We've always oiled our hinges with whatever oil we have lying around. It gets rid of the squeak and we haven't noticed any ill effects.

~ Dragons, Fairies and even a Mini-Paul! ~ You Know You're a Permie When...~ All About Permies, including tutorials ~Herbal Hugel Spiral of Randomness!~Tricks to Keep the Dirt from Sliding off a Hugel~List of Cascadia Bloggers and Facebook Pages!~

 
Mike Haasl
steward
Posts: 13126
Location: Northern WI (zone 4)
3736
3
I like...
hunting trees books food preservation solar woodworking
posted 2 years ago
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I think that there's a chance Paul would be fine with any grease that works for a reasonable period of time.  I'll check with him at our next PEP call.  I'd hope that you wipe up the excess so there really isn't anything to attract a child.  Unless they spend a lot of time licking hinges.

SKIP books, get 'em while they're hot!!! Skills to Inherit Property

 
Mike Haasl
steward
Posts: 13126
Location: Northern WI (zone 4)
3736
3
I like...
hunting trees books food preservation solar woodworking
posted 2 years ago
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Thanks Shane, we adjusted the requirements!

SKIP books, get 'em while they're hot!!! Skills to Inherit Property

 
Shane DeMeulenaere
Posts: 20
Location: Ann Arbor, MI Great Lakes region, USA zone 6a
13
3
I like...
foraging food preservation medical herbs
posted 2 years ago
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Thanks Nicole and Mike. Our kids don't spend much time licking hinges, though some might? I mostly brought it up because it seemed like it could be a violation of the 'toxic gick' theme that is ever present in Paul's work (something that I really appreciate. Thanks Paul.). Thanks for adjusting the requirements. I'll plan on trying some animal fat based grease when I get the time. I'll post back when I do.

Nicole, out of curiosity, what oils have you used? Have you noticed any differences in performance, longevity, or application ease? With some oils I worry about them 'gumming up' over time, like the gunk that collects near frying pans. Maybe this only happens when oils are heated?

Shane

 
jordan barton
steward
Posts: 1656
Location: Coastal Salish Sea area, British Columbia
853
I like...
goat books chicken food preservation pig solar wood heat rocket stoves homestead ungarbage
posted 2 years ago
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
    Send
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
So this worked extremely great! Now the door makes no noise at all! This door would tell the goats that i am opening the door and now i believe i will be able to open the door stealthy without the goats noticing. BOOO YAH


Here is the hinge before



Here is the grease and nail i used for smearing the grease



here is me removing the hinges



Here is me applying the grease with a nail.



Here is the hinge afterwards. You can see a little bit of the grease . I would put the grease in the top and the bottom with the nail and than put the pin thru the bottom and than put it thru the top into its final position.



It is a privilege to live, work and play in the traditional territory of the Salish People.
Better wood heat! -- 177 Hours of PDC and ATC! -- Mike Oehler's Low Cost Underground House!
All about Permies, including Tutorials -- Raven Trust

 
You don't like waffles? Well, do you like this tiny ad?
Solar Station Construction Plans - now FREE for a while
https://permies.com/t/138039/Solar-Station-Construction-Plans-FREE
reply
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
Boost this thread!
Similar Threads
More...