Heat Starter Pack

I think this is great, but I wish there were places where you could just order one installed. My husband and I do want one. Especially the stove and an oven, but non of us are very handy fixing and building things. Hence why it has been a year since a trellis broke, and it is still not fixed, and it has take my husband 2 months to far (he is not done) to build a chicken coop.
I really want an outdoor kitchen, but do not want to depends on propane gas as a solution, but there are no where you can buy even a regular rocket mass heather.

Ulla Bisgaard wrote:I think this is great, but I wish there were places where you could just order one installed. My husband and I do want one. Especially the stove and an oven, but non of us are very handy fixing and building things.

Unfortunately, this is the current weakness with rmh. It has not been standardized and engineered enough by people with the right letters after their names for it to be “not my liability if it fails” for contractors and government inspectors. So it remains the province is diyers who are confident enough to build something that, done wrong, could burn their house down… maybe someday it will get there.

Regarding the bundle: who is the target audience? This seems mostly like a rebundling of products that have been available before. So regulars on permies.com would either have some or most of it, or would have reasons why they haven’t bought - lack of interest for their context, etc. are you expecting to entice people
Who haven’t bought any of the products? Why would this configuration appeal to them?

I do, admittedly, get antsy watching videos. I bought one of the movie sets, and never could get through the whole thing, so maybe I am not the right person to be commenting. But two multi-film sets seems like a LOT of footage to sit through if someone just wants to know how to build one - or even if they are just curious and want to know more. How many hours is it all together, 4+? Would someone who likes movies want to watch it all? And if you approach it as having your choice of which style to build, so you only watch that - most of the styles do not have accompanying plans, correct?
I wonder if it would be better to curate the movies, so that the bundle has 3-4 full plans and the videos showing only those builds. From what I remember of the movies, it might take some editing- I think I tried to skip around, and felt disoriented, like I had missed important bits by not watching it all in sequence.

A good start. More detail on the eBook like projects and about the authors. I think adding rocket oven and maybe more fire related things could be good. Then since this is a starter pack have a link to another pack with more stuff. Like a pyro pack or a rocket science pack.

This is excellent Andrés!

Thank you so much for putting this together.  

This collection makes rocket mass heater technology accessible to new people and gives me everything I need to build my own.

Ulla Bisgaard wrote:I think this is great, but I wish there were places where you could just order one installed. My husband and I do want one. Especially the stove and an oven, but non of us are very handy fixing and building things. Hence why it has been a year since a trellis broke, and it is still not fixed, and it has take my husband 2 months to far (he is not done) to build a chicken coop.
I really want an outdoor kitchen, but do not want to depends on propane gas as a solution, but there are no where you can buy even a regular rocket mass heather.

Hello Ulla!

There are folks who will come and build a rocket mass heater for you.

Uncle Mud is in Ohio and he travels all over.  
https://permies.com/u/164246/Chris-McClellan

He offered to come out to my place in Washington state and build one for me.  He teaches at Paul's place in Montana pretty regularly.    You can probably get on his schedule and have him come to your place.   He would be my first choice.  He is the master, a true artist and such a joy to hang out with.  He also loves to teach, so if you have him out to do a build for you, you can set up a workshop and sell tickets.  

Here is a link to a whole list of Rocket mass heater builders:
https://permies.com/w/rmh-builders-list

I wish this package was available as a set of DVD's.  Some of us are in situations where DVD's provide much better and more durable, long-term access to the info you are offering.  Any chance of that?  DVD's plus printed plans would be my much-preferred option.
Thanks for what you're doing.

Rodney Polden wrote:I wish this package was available as a set of DVD's.  Some of us are in situations where DVD's provide much better and more durable, long-term access to the info you are offering.  Any chance of that?  DVD's plus printed plans would be my much-preferred option.
Thanks for what you're doing.

When I was building my rocket oven I did print out the plans. I used Fedx print service and I think it was about $36.00 all together. I would also like to see a starter pack in DVD's. My idea would be to get that starter pack into libraries and other places. One thought I have had was something like The Knights Who Say Free, who could with help get starter packs into these places.

Ulla,
Uncle Mud here. Samantha is very kind. If you are interested, there are single burner rocket stove designs intended for anyone to be able to build mostly from mud and trash. Here's a link to one of my designs. https://permies.com/t/106214/Uncle-Mud-EZ-Cob-Rocket

A rocket oven is a much bigger beast. I've rebuilt/upgraded the round one at Paul's a few times and collaborated with Rodney on the design of the earthen rocket stove there. I'm about half way through the new rocket oven for Paul's. Given the proper tools a handy person could probably build something rough and functional for about $1000 in parts, much less if they were a great scrounger. It would take them 7-10 days, less if they have specific metal working and/or mud building skills and understood rocket stoves. Having one built for you that looked nice and performed well could easily run $3k to $6k. This is a particularly fantastic one my friend built. Two burners that can be switched out fro griddles and an oven.  If you're serious I will actually be out your way this summer. Drop me a message.

Chris McClellan wrote:Ulla,
Uncle Mud here. Samantha is very kind. If you are interested, there are single burner rocket stove designs intended for anyone to be able to build mostly from mud and trash. Here's a link to one of my designs. https://permies.com/t/106214/Uncle-Mud-EZ-Cob-Rocket

A rocket oven is a much bigger beast. I've rebuilt/upgraded the round one at Paul's a few times and collaborated with Rodney on the design of the earthen rocket stove there. I'm about half way through the new rocket oven for Paul's. Given the proper tools a handy person could probably build something rough and functional for about $1000 in parts, much less if they were a great scrounger. It would take them 7-10 days, less if they have specific metal working and/or mud building skills and understood rocket stoves. Having one built for you that looked nice and performed well could easily run $3k to $6k. This is a particularly fantastic one my friend built. Two burners that can be switched out fro griddles and an oven.  If you're serious I will actually be out your way this summer. Drop me a message.

Thank you so much, that’s a generous offer. I will let my husband know. I don’t know if we will be able to. A combination of a storm, extreme heat, followed by extreme lows, has killed several trees and shrubs. We have to take care of that first. Dead wood is dangerous in our area. The storm also destroyed a large trellis and collapsed the chicken coop. I thank god that non of our chickens was hurt. Due to the wildlife risk, the coop is a priority. We live next to crest national park, so we get a bunch of different predators.
I will send you a purple message if he thinks that we can fit it in.

Chris McClellan wrote:Ulla,
This is a particularly fantastic one my friend built. Two burners that can be switched out for griddles and an oven.  If you're serious I will actually be out your way this summer. Drop me a message.

Nice!
What are the dimensions of this oven and stove?

Ulla Bisgaard wrote:
I really want an outdoor kitchen, but do not want to depends on propane gas as a solution, but there are no where you can buy even a regular rocket mass heather.

Here is something similar to what you are looking for in an outdoor kitchen. Something like this might fill in until you can get a RMH built and it might even be a more efficient way to go toward an outdoor kitchen.

GO TO:    https://www.instructables.com/DIY-Weber-Grill-Cart-BBQ-Station/

This link above does work and takes you to the Instructibles web site showing you detailed instructions on how to build this cart. I would recommend larger wheels and a longer overall cart. You MAY be able to just download the PDF File from the site. But, you may have to set up an account and then download it. The PDF File can be used on a lap top display OR you can print it out, preferably in color.

GOOD LUCK & HAPPY MEALS!!!