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I live in a condo apartment in an urban neighbourhood in the Canadian prairies.  I do what I can with my kitchen waste.  I have a vermicomposter.  Instead of throwing out food waste which is less than ideal for my worms (mostly avocado peels & nuts, citrus peels, onion skins), I’ve been doing what I call guerilla composting:   I chop these up and drop  them in the tall grass & trees along the riverbank.  I mentioned this to one of my environment-friendly neighbours who said that this is bad for certain animals.  (We have deer, rabbits, raccoons, skunks, groundhogs, etc.)  Should I stop doing this?  (Please be nice as she might be reading your responses.)
 
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I suspect that if any of that was bad for one of those critters, they wouldn't over indulge in it.  Meat/fat might be a different issue but I wouldn't be worried about fruit/veggies at all...  Especially if you're spreading it around and not making one big pile.  Congratulations on returning that material to nature instead of the landfill!
 
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I have been doing what you are doing for almost ten years.  I call it feeding the wildlife.

I don't do it guerrilla style because I am putting it on my own property.

Whatever I put out disappears.  I have never seen wildlife in that area so they must come during the night.

I am of the same theory that Mike suggested that the wildlife knows what they can and cannot eat.  Usually, it is overindulging that causes a problem.

Congratulation on doing vermicomposting as that is such a good idea.
 
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I agree that keeping it out of the landfill is preferable. Unfortunately Winnipeg does not seem to have a composting program for kitchen scraps, only for yard waste.

Respectfully, I suggest that there is a fine line between "guerilla composting" and "littering." Peels from fruits and nut shells can take many years to break down in our climate.

You mention you are chopping them up -- good! Mince them up super fine and they will have better soil contact. Even better, after mincing, would be to use some anaerobic digesting or fermentation process so the breakdown has already begun before you dispose of them.

Regarding harm to animals, I have no real concerns. Wild animals are pretty smart about what they can and cannot eat.
 
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Do you have pretty plants at your condo that could use fertilizer?

Most folks I know that have condos usually have pretty plants near their front door.

You could put those diced straps in water then let them sit for a week and water those pretty plants.
 
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Anne Miller wrote:You could put those diced straps in water then let them sit for a week and water those pretty plants.


Excellent idea! Just dilute the lovely liquor in a watering can. Watch out for security cameras!
 
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Back on topic:

>> one of my environment-friendly neighbours who said that this is bad for certain animals.

I cannot think of any kitchenscraps that are *harmful* to wildlife.

I've always heard, 'Don't feed citrus to your chickens!'  Turns out you can, not harmful, chickens just don't like the stuff.

 
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Anne Miller wrote:Do you have pretty plants at your condo that could use fertilizer?

Most folks I know that have condos usually have pretty plants near their front door.

You could put those diced straps in water then let them sit for a week and water those pretty plants.



I must admit that I'd never heard of doing this.  I have houseplants which could benefit.  Is a week the longest they should soak?
 
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Douglas Alpenstock wrote:

Regarding harm to animals, I have no real concerns. Wild animals are pretty smart about what they can and cannot eat.



Thanks for your comments.

A few of you have said something about animals only eating what’s good for them.  I wanted to believe that, but then I remembered the images I’d seen of dead bird carcasses on an island thousands of miles from anywhere.  The carcasses were filled with mostly plastic & other manufactured trash the birds had eaten.  How do you explain that?
 
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Mike Haasl wrote:I suspect that if any of that was bad for one of those critters, they wouldn't over indulge in it.  Meat/fat might be a different issue but I wouldn't be worried about fruit/veggies at all...  Especially if you're spreading it around and not making one big pile.  Congratulations on returning that material to nature instead of the landfill!



I will admit that I was simply dropping a compostable container of waste in  one spot.  Comments here have made me realize that I need to chop things more finely and spread it out in one spot.  Thanks to Mike & others for helping me think this through better!
 
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Jean Soarin wrote:The carcasses were filled with mostly plastic & other manufactured trash the birds had eaten.  How do you explain that?



I had a friend whose dog had to have an operation.  The vet found it had ingested plastic wrap off meat packages.

I can only assume that the plastic was in the trash and smelled like meat.

I don't know if there is an explanation as to why the birds ate it.

Anne said, "    You could put those diced straps in water then let them sit for a week and water those pretty plants.



Jean said, "I must admit that I'd never heard of doing this.  I have houseplants which could benefit.  Is a week the longest they should soak



From what I have read on the forum some say 5-6 days or a week.  Dilute 50/50 and pour near the roots.

Folks do this with weeds and/or leaves and all say this is beneficial to the plants.  It is like a simplified compost tea.

 
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Jean Soarin wrote: A few of you have said something about animals only eating what’s good for them.  I wanted to believe that, but then I remembered the images I’d seen of dead bird carcasses on an island thousands of miles from anywhere.  The carcasses were filled with mostly plastic & other manufactured trash the birds had eaten.  How do you explain that?


I agree that plastics are a huge problem in some places. Still, based on the materials you are disposing of and the animal life in your area, I don't see any concerns.
 
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Anne said, "    You could put those diced straps in water then let them sit for a week and water those pretty plants.



Thanks.  I'll be sure to try this.

From what I have read on the forum some say 5-6 days or a week.  Dilute 50/50 and pour near the roots.

Folks do this with weeds and/or leaves and all say this is beneficial to the plants.  It is like a simplified compost tea.

 
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You may also want to look into adding a bokashi comparing system. Basically, you put anything organic into a bucket, ferment it with special anaerobic microbes, and bury it in the ground or a large flower pot topped with soil. That would take care of anything that can't go to the worms.

I really don't see what the problem would be with your current plan though as far as wildlife health.
 
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This might be a little off the wall, but I know that natural dyers use onion skins and avocado skins and pits for textile dyes. I wonder if you could connect with someone local who could utilize that part of your kitchen waste - maybe save up a bagful in your freezer for the avo - and would be happy to take those scraps off your hands. I have often thought that if I were able to start some dying, I'd ask the local smoothie bar to save avocado skins for me so you might find a happy taker!
 
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Per the post just above, onion skins make a nice dye for wool or Easter eggs, but you do have to save up quite a collection.

If your residence has large mulched beds of decorative plants, you could skip the water-soaking and just bury your scraps in the mulch by raking them aside, dumping your stuff and raking the mulch back over it. If you can make it look neat and critters don't dig it up, all is well. (That's probably not possible for half the year while the mulch is frozen.)
 
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If your residence has large mulched beds of decorative plants, you could skip the water-soaking and just bury your scraps in the mulch by raking them aside, dumping your stuff and raking the mulch back over it. If you can make it look neat and critters don't dig it up, all is well. (That's probably not possible for half the year while the mulch is frozen.)[/quote wrote:

I would do this if I had my own yard, but in this condo building, I'd be inviting trouble. Thanks anyways.

 
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I think your friend may be partially right-- avocado is supposed to be toxic to rabbits - my bokashi is probably about half avocado pits and skins because they eat almost everything else of my kitchen waste (not their choice, just to be clear: i don't give it to them, I don't believe rabbits or even anything else will avoid something that will make them sick, especially if this plant isn't part of the local ecosystem).
I also note that after bokashi/composting, the rats or whatever is always digging up my compost do not touch the pits.

I think it's awesome you're trying to reduce your waste, though, and wish more people would do the same.
 
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Tereza Okava wrote:I think your friend may be partially right-- avocado is supposed to be toxic to rabbits - my bokashi is probably about half avocado pits and skins because they eat almost everything else of my kitchen waste (not their choice, just to be clear: i don't give it to them, I don't believe rabbits or even anything else will avoid something that will make them sick, especially if this plant isn't part of the local ecosystem).



Actually, unless it is so toxic that a single nibble will kill, I think most animals will learn to avoid toxic plants. I have two goats, and when they free range you can definitely see them going for some things (roses, brambles) and sniffing and ignoring others (mayapples) which are toxic. Their preferences even change depending on the time of year. I suspect it is a combination of toxicity and nutrition. I’m careful not to pen them in one place where they might not have choice, but as long as they do, I think they can detect plant toxins pretty well.
 
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I love the idea of guerilla composting! I have some additional thoughts and experience that might give you more ideas.

Tl;dr:  the burying or mulching helps kitchen scraps be slightly less of a critter attractant, and definitely less of a litter appearance to humans. Please be mindful of what effect the scraps might be having on wildlife patterns.

I've done a lot of Ruth Stout composting - which is burying your scraps under a deep mulch right in the garden. In Montana, we had copious straw, hay, or sawdust to put over the top of our scraps in the garden. These mulched piles were sometimes dug into by the wild turkeys or other critters, but mostly did an amazing job of improving that sand and rock soil we had there.

When I lived in downtown Missoula, I was in an old house converted to apartments and had small garden beds in front of my porch. I didn't have hay or sawdust, plus that might offend the landlord and neighbors. So I specifically bought a bag of bark mulch for the garden beds, just so I could put my kitchen scraps underneath it and no one would be the wiser!

Now I'm on a property where my "yard" (as Americans call it) is the former goat pasture. Here, hay or leaves break down quite quickly with all the rain, and there is a lot of wildlife. So I do what is often called trench composting - I dig a shallow hole and bury my scraps. The wildlife critters (coyotes, rats, mice, racoons, opossums) frequently, but not always, dig it up.

My landlady here is fine with my compost burying, she just doesn't want raw meat scraps in the pasture. She's concerned raw meat could encourage or introduce parasites which would not be healthy for future pasture livestock.

I'm trying to improve the soil around the dripline of a neglected mulberry tree. If it weren't for that, due to the scraps attracting critters, I'd probably bury my scraps at the far corner, farther away from the buildings.

That's the thing with putting food scraps out - they could change wildlife movement patterns and/or encourage wildlife where you don't want them.

There's this story Toby Hemenway writes about in Gaia's Garden, where he had carefully planned a hedgerow with native forage on the outside for where the deer passed by, and grafted-on fruits on the inside side, for human consumption. But then his neighbor started putting apples out for the deer. So the deer changed their feeding pattern and now started grazing the INSIDE of his carefully thought out, carefully grafted hedgerow.
 
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We put everything (including avocado peels & nuts (crushed up), citrus peels, onion skins) through our Bokashi system and then into the worm farms - works a treat.  Make sure you regularly empty off the Bokashi liquid to avoid the strong odor that sometimes develops in the bottom bucket.
 
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Steve Boyd wrote:We put everything (including avocado peels & nuts (crushed up), citrus peels, onion skins) through our Bokashi system and then into the worm farms - works a treat.  Make sure you regularly empty off the Bokashi liquid to avoid the strong odor that sometimes develops in the bottom bucket.



I had an incorrect understanding of what bokashi was before I posted this thread, and so had never given it a second thought.  But with all the mentions of it in the past week, I've looked it up and  have grown interested.  I'm looking into trying it.  But I thought I still needed to find somewhere to bury the compost afterwards... But it can just be fed to the worms and turned into more compost?  I read somewhere that bokashi is too acidic once it's been composted, and so shouldn't come into contact with plants for two weeks or so.  How long do you leave it in the bokashi bucket, and then do you put it in to your worm farm right away?
 
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Yeah we leave it in the bucket for 2 weeks or more sometimes up to 12 months! And then straight into the worm farms.  Some people call it composting but it's not really at  all. Pickling it really  -but it works very well for us
 
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different people do different things- I keep mine in the bucket til the bucket is full (usually about 6 weeks) and then layer it with spent dirt (from previous container plantings), some rough chipped materials, rabbit manure, and some friendly local worms who magically show up til it is broken down, usually about another 6 weeks (depends on weather, dirt percentage, and maybe also worm motivation?). I've also buried it in trenches in the garden. It's great if you can't get a compost pile going or if you have a very small garden space.
 
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Douglas Alpenstock wrote:I agree that keeping it out of the landfill is preferable. Unfortunately Winnipeg does not seem to have a composting program for kitchen scraps, only for yard waste.

Respectfully, I suggest that there is a fine line between "guerilla composting" and "littering." Peels from fruits and nut shells can take many years to break down in our climate.

You mention you are chopping them up -- good! Mince them up super fine and they will have better soil contact. Even better, after mincing, would be to use some anaerobic digesting or fermentation process so the breakdown has already begun before you dispose of them.



Actually, Winnipeg is finally starting offering a user-funder composting service.  I've pitched this to our condo board as a solution to the odour problem in our garbage room.  I'm hoping they'll be willing to try it out.
 
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Unfortunately Winnipeg does not seem to have a composting program for kitchen scraps, only for yard waste.  



Well, I suspect the process is the same, and the materials are not significantly different. Whenever I live where there is a composting program for yard waste I put food scraps in it.
If I don't want it to be obvious I put them in a brown bag first.
I can't imagine a process that can compost tree branches that cannot deal with orange peels and avocado pits.
 
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Ellen Lewis wrote:

Unfortunately Winnipeg does not seem to have a composting program for kitchen scraps, only for yard waste.  



Well, I suspect the process is the same, and the materials are not significantly different. Whenever I live where there is a composting program for yard waste I put food scraps in it.
If I don't want it to be obvious I put them in a brown bag first.
I can't imagine a process that can compost tree branches that cannot deal with orange peels and avocado pits.



I hadn't thought of doing it that way, but I like it.  Yard waste is picked up every two weeks from spring to fall, so adding a small paper bag to neighbours' yard waste would be a great way to deal with my non-worm-worthy kitchen scraps if the condo board decides not to go with the compost pick-up program.  Certainly a step up from dropping it in nature.  Thanks!
 
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I do my bokashi for 2 weeks. I save up a large tub in the fridge then fill it in the bucket when the tub is full. If I descife to add more to the bucket I restart my two weeks. Once I put it on the ground it turns into very nice soil in two weeks. Slightly longer during cold season. But man does that bottom liquid get me. Very rough lol. The contents however have some smell but it’s not off putting to me. The liquid….my stomach is weaker than when I originally started this process.

I still think it’s worth it due to the quick boost it gives. I probably mix my liquid stronger than nessicary but does it ever do wonders. I pour into a tea container then top off with water. I give just a small amount to each plant before turning on the drip system.

But for me the original question is you are not hurting the ecosystem. Wildlife like snacks too…
 
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Jean Soarin wrote:Actually, Winnipeg is finally starting offering a user-funder composting service.  I've pitched this to our condo board as a solution to the odour problem in our garbage room.  I'm hoping they'll be willing to try it out.


Excellent news! I hope that works out. There's no sense in sending organics to a landfill.
 
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Thank you all for sharing! I had been hesitant about doing guerilla composting myself. Now I will take a look at bokashi for things my worms don't really want as is.
 
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Despite my diatribe above, I don't think guerrilla composting is a terrible idea.

I just think a little thought (or design, if you will) helps to make it truly a benefit and not a nuisance.

Not everyone has room, or bandwidth for vermicompost or even bokashi systems. (Speaking of those without outdoor compost pile availability and without municipal compost services, etc.)

Guerrilla composting might truly be the easiest, best option. I'd recommend just trying to be respectful about it. Think about animal patterns (especially rats or pests). Think about keeping out of waterways, and where there could be runoff. Think about whether your food scraps might be "too hot" (too much green waste type nitrogen) for tender plants. Rotting food scraps touching, or on top of plants, can induce rotting of the plant they touch.

For example, tucking out of sight under a hardy bush in poor soil is likely a huge benefit--when it's away from buildings. But maybe you're in a city where there isn't much that is away from buildings. Then I'd want to not only tuck it under the bush, but also bury it or mulch it heavily to reduce it being a pest attractant.

 
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Most vegetable peeling can be saved in the freezer and then made into nutritious vegetable broth.

Carrots, onions, and potatoes are the ones I use the most. Just about any scrap vegetable parts work too.
 
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Gary Numan wrote:Back on topic:
>> one of my environment-friendly neighbours who said that this is bad for certain animals.
I cannot think of any kitchenscraps that are *harmful* to wildlife.
I've always heard, 'Don't feed citrus to your chickens!'  Turns out you can, not harmful, chickens just don't like the stuff.


I give everything carbon based to my chickens. After a few days, I rake whatever might be left over into my compost pile. Usually I'm just roughing up the ground. They don't leave much behind.
Broccoli, dry onion skins, really old snap peas and the random citrus peel seem to be the only thing that are "chicken resistant".

No, wildlife are fine. As long as you are careful about not making it overly attractive to pest species (large urban rodents - Norway rats -  were a problem in Ohio when we lived there), what you're doing is fine.
 
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Anne Miller wrote:Most vegetable peeling can be saved in the freezer and then made into nutritious vegetable broth.
Carrots, onions, and potatoes are the ones I use the most. Just about any scrap vegetable parts work too.


Or, if you already have enough broth or otherwise aren't interested - I have people on my "egg route" who save up their trimmings and peels and what-not and give them to me when I drop off their eggs. They feel better for "feeding chickens" and I get chicken snacks, plus compost. It all works out. We've had talks about what they can/should include - no to plastic, wire, rubber; yes to meat bits, vegetation, and egg shells. It works well with minimal fuss on my end.

Maybe you can find someone who's interested in something similar - for when you aren't feeding your worms, bokashi, or tucking a paper bag into the "garden waste" recycle.
 
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I think Ruth Stout would approve of  'guerrilla composting'!  Here's a quick video, made recently about her method by a Boot at Wheaton Labs.  Check it out!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwj0SKuqP1c
 
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