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Mike Jay wrote:Thanks for the timely post, I'm getting my seed list ready for this spring. I hadn't heard of black salsify before and it's hardy in my zone! I have sorrel and lovage which are quite strong to make a full salad from. Do you have personal experience with black salsify? Can you make a salad from it and enjoy the results?
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J Davis wrote:Great post. I look forward to adding several of those soon.
Currently treating as perennial greens: wood sorrel, broad leaf plantain, dandelion, curly dock, mellow, rose of Sharon hibiscus bush leaves, tree collards, violet flowers/leaves, clover leaves/flowers.
I typically add the young leaves and flowers to salads. I use the late season leaves in soups.
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J Davis wrote:Great post. I look forward to adding several of those soon.
Currently treating as perennial greens: wood sorrel, broad leaf plantain, dandelion, curly dock, mellow, rose of Sharon hibiscus bush leaves, tree collards, violet flowers/leaves, clover leaves/flowers.
I typically add the young leaves and flowers to salads. I use the late season leaves in soups.
Sincerely,
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David Huang wrote:I hadn't realized scorzonera was a perennial green even though I tried growing some last year with seeds that were given to me. I guess I was just thinking of it as a root vegetable. Perhaps thankfully, it didn't do that well and mostly got overrun with bindweed. I say perhaps thankfully in the hopes that since I didn't try harvesting it there might be something remaining that survived to emerge anew in the spring. We shall see! I'll certainly try starting some more of the seed this year as well.
I'll add a couple other perennial greens to the list. First is grape leaves. I get tons of these from both wild and cultivated grape vines on my property. I really need to work on more recipes to utilize them.
The other is daylily shoots. Around me these seem to be among the very first green things to poke up from the ground in the spring. I generally harvest some for a few meals each spring. Mostly I use daylillies as a great perennial food source later in the year for buds and flowers. Sometime I need to harvest some of the tubers to try them as well.
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Ralph Kettell wrote:Hi Daron,
Another great post. i love perennials for obvious reasons. Perhaps I can repeat my success with other perennials like i had with my multiplying raspberry bush that I had mentioned in one of your earlier threads. I am thinking of creating a whole new bed for just perennials starting with rows of raspberries, blackberries and big plot of garlic. Plus I am going to plant a large batch of Comfrey. I am waiting for my comfrey root cuttings to come up now.
Thanks for the ideas. I now have some more seeds to order and get under the lights.
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Nicole Alderman wrote:HOSTAS!
My mom planted these things everywhere, and I never liked them because they didn't look like a native plant and so seemed incongruous (kind of like a palm tree next to a hemlock...). I vowed to never grow them on my own land.
...Then I found out you could eat them!
They not only suppress weeds under fruit trees and grow in the shade, their shoots and flowers are edible! (since they are in the lily family, it makes sense).
So, now I've been taking divisions from my mom, and planting them under my tree. When cooked, they taste like a bitter lettuce mixed with asperagus. Not bad!
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Other perenial veggies that I love:
Sorrel (great for adding to smoothies and salsas for a lemony flavor. Sheep and wood sorrel, I think, have a much milder & sweeter flavor than French Sorrel).
Lovage (this is FANTASTIC in soups. I don't really like celery, but lovage is delicious in soup. I like the flavor a lot more than celary, and it's perennial!).
Nettle (It's delicious. It's mild and packed full of nutrition. My whole family--including my kids--loves it. I have to restrain them, since too much isn't good for one's kidneys. But, it's so yummy! It's definetly my favorite vegetable!)
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Daron Williams wrote:Great comment - thanks! Ya, hostas were a surprise to me too when I found out they were edible. Do you know if all hostas are or just certain types? It is great to have another edible shade tolerant plant to add to the list
Good to hear about lovage - I don't like celery either so I had been nervous about growing lovage. I think I will have to give it a try Do you know - does it die back in the fall/winter in our climate?
I love nettles! I can't wait till I get a nice patch growing at my place!
Sorrels are fun and I really want to get some growing on my place - both the French sorrel and wood sorrel.
Thanks for sharing!
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Inge Leonora-den Ouden wrote:I would love to grow a lot more perennial vegetables. I have the mediterranean herbs (sage, rosemary, thyme, mint, etc.) and I have a large rhubarb plant. I like foraging wild vegetables, like stinging nettles. But I think it will be nice to have some 'wild greens' close to my kitchen, in my own back yard. Maybe even the ones considered 'weeds'...
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luke allen wrote:We eat the tree collars all year round. We grow and sell an amazing purple tree collard. Check it out Sundial Seed Co. Pruple Tree Collards
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Jamie Chevalier wrote:Thanks for getting this topic going. I want to note that miner's lettuce is not perennial. Often it self-sows from dropped seed, but none of the individual plants live more than a year. It is a great salad green, and if you have a shady, moist fertile spot under trees you could manage a patch that self-sows. Adapted to growing in cold winter soils--it will sprout and grow in soil just above freezing. Eliott Coleman's used it in Maine for unheated winter hoophouse production of salad greens. The flavor is good enough to sell to restaurants, rare for a wild green.
At Quail Seeds, we have miner's lettuce seed from wild stands (domestication would cause genetic changes toward dependence). We also have seeds for several perennial vegetables--perpetual spinach, perennial arugula, perennial scallions, 2 kinds of sorrel, rhubarb, erba stella, and Caucasus Mountain Spinach, which is an exciting one--mild-flavored perennial vine hardy down to zone 3. Quail Seeds
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Nicole Alderman wrote:HOSTAS!
My mom planted these things everywhere, and I never liked them because they didn't look like a native plant and so seemed incongruous (kind of like a palm tree next to a hemlock...). I vowed to never grow them on my own land.
...Then I found out you could eat them!
They not only suppress weeds under fruit trees and grow in the shade, their shoots and flowers are edible! (since they are in the lily family, it makes sense).
So, now I've been taking divisions from my mom, and planting them under my tree. When cooked, they taste like a bitter lettuce mixed with asperagus. Not bad!
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Other perenial veggies that I love:
Sorrel (great for adding to smoothies and salsas for a lemony flavor. Sheep and wood sorrel, I think, have a much milder & sweeter flavor than French Sorrel).
Lovage (this is FANTASTIC in soups. I don't really like celery, but lovage is delicious in soup. I like the flavor a lot more than celary, and it's perennial!).
Nettle (It's delicious. It's mild and packed full of nutrition. My whole family--including my kids--loves it. I have to restrain them, since too much isn't good for one's kidneys. But, it's so yummy! It's definetly my favorite vegetable!)
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Jamie Chevalier wrote:About miner's lettuce: Thanks for the info.....I have seen the other plants in the Claytonia genus, like Siberian Beauty and Candyflower as perennials, but not C. perfoliata. The issue in California is not the winter, but surviving the summer. I'm realizing I've never seen it go perennial and survive the summer because I've never watered it, or seen it in an area with enough soil moisture to live past June. They are shallow-rooted, and around here they always reseed and die in May or June. So many California "annuals," actually could live longer if water were available.
With that information, I will add it to our perennial vegetables page, and lovage as well. Perennial Vegetables
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Rebecca Norman wrote:Yes to perennial arugula! It's small, and the leaves are very small, but it's perennial for me in my unheated greenhouse that goes down below freezing every night for two months of winter. It produces much less for the space than annual arugula, but it never gets as spicy hot as annual arugula always does in my dry sunny climate.
Annual arugula (aka rocket, Eruca spp) seedlings look like the cabbage-mustard family, but the flowers are white and quite different from cabbage-mustard family. Perennial arugula (aka Sylvetta, wild rocket, or Diplotaxis spp) seeds and seedlings are much tinier than cabbage family ones and look different, but its mustard-yellow flowers look just like the the cabbage family. It self-seeds abundantly and can become weedy.
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Susan Mené wrote:What about Lamb's Quarters? Are they persistent re-seeders or perennials?
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