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The data got moved just fine.  

The new server operates 40x faster than the old one.  And I think google is being charmed by the faster speeds.

We will definitely have a record month.  Today we hit 4 million visits and 20 million pageviews.

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Wow, great news.

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More eyeballs here, more boots on the grounds in the coming year...?

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Coydon Wallham wrote:More eyeballs here, more boots on the grounds in the coming year...?



Mebbe.

At the moment, I think funding for https://permies.com/bel is the best bet

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What a record month!  4,629,349 visits and 23,654,603 pageviews!

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Earlier I said something about at the end of 2021 hitting 190 million.  That was figuring on 20 million people per year.  

January 2024 was a record month with 2.0 million.  April 2.23 million. May 2.6.  December 2.8.  January 2025 was 4.6 million.

So ....

2022 20
2023 20
2024 25

Through 2024, 255 million.  

A quarter of a billion people have visited permies.com over all of the time we have run this site






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What got me to come back and look was a treasure hunt notice. I didn't know what they were... had missed them entirely the years I'd been coming and not. After the treasure hunt finish (took about 10 minutes max) I realized that there were a lot of things here I wanted to read/look at and that permies was a resource I'd neglected. So, I've been coming back.

Not that my particulars are important, but it's an indicator I guess? For years I've been on again/off again. The treasure hunt notice from the bot is what got me to come back. Not sure how you could apply it to other things on the site, but thought I'd give my .02.

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paul wheaton wrote:and another leap yesterday


     191,021!



A record day yesterday!



     202,467!



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WOW!
 
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paul wheaton wrote:A record day yesterday!



     202,467!






And now a new winner, by a nose ...



     204,418!




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A new monthly record!


      4,805,626 visits!



beating the record set in january of 4,629,349.

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This month is already a new record month.  I'll check for the official numbers tomorrow.

My guess is that this could be related to the new server having a faster response time.  I read somewhere, a long time ago, that google measures that and likes that.

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Any chance that the sub in the volcano has a nuclear power plant that could be tapped to supercharge the server and really impress Google? All the big tech boys are doing it...
 
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A new monthly record!


      5,653,883 visits!


....   more than 5 million people per month



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SERIOUSLY!!!? WOW!!!  

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Oooops! I’ll try again!
SERIOUSLY???!!! WOW!!!  

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Woah, that's a big jump!

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Nancy Reading wrote:Woah, that's a big jump!



Our new server is about 30x faster than our old server.

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This month is gonna be a record month.  We have already passed 9 million for november!

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A new monthly record!


      11,684,533 visits!




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wow 11mil + visits, the server upgrade was just in time, does it need any expansion? I'd be willing to invest $$ if it helps spread the permie word.
 
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J. Syme wrote:wow 11mil + visits, the server upgrade was just in time, does it need any expansion? I'd be willing to invest $$ if it helps spread the permie word.



The server is doing much better.  

Stuff that is killing me now where I could use funds:

  - bad guys have pooped on our mailing list, and we are developing new tools to clean up and prevent future issues
        (about three months into it and the costs are killing me, notice how the kickstarter is doing so poorly)

  - our server bill has tripled.  This month is quadruple.  Combined with above - ouchy!

Spreading the permie word ...  i think about this a hundred times a day every day!  How do we infect more brains?  If $100K dropped in my lap today with a label "to spread the permie word" ...    I am not sure how I would spend it.  Two years ago I would have said "Pump the bootcamp and ringer program.  Make heaps of content for kickstarters.  Kickstarters then pour funds into the bootcamp and ringer program.  Repeat."  Instead, the kickstarter stuff seems to have dried up.  Maybe if we repair our email stuff the kickstarter stuff will come back ...      

...  buying advertising ...  my impression is that 99% of advertisers don't get their money back.  

...  andres has an idea to make a netflix quality movie - but again, it would require a lot of advance coin.  

My brain has been down this road a thousand times.  Over and over I come to the same conclusion:   boost the bootcamp (BEL) and ringer program; create a hundred more artifacts (wofati movie/book; roundwood book; hugelkultur book; food pump book ...) and one of these artifacts will go viral and take everything else with it.

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record traffic yesterday:  


   714,369!



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Congrats! Definitely a flywheel (good to great) moment

Newbie here, but I do have a product mgmt background and a few insights.

Who might be the best person(s) to engage with re site improvements?


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J.P. Waters wrote:Who might be the best person(s) to engage with re site improvements?



Start a new thread here in the tinkering forum - that would be best.

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yet another record!  Yesterday:  


   900,953!


I go to GA to verify since GA filters out all bots (and a lot of people too) ...   spike confirmed!  Where did they come from?  Apparently direct (not google or following links).  And ...  from china ...  


China?  Why do I now get the feeling that something ain't right?

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How many from China? Can you tell how theyvaccesssvit? Direct or through search engines? Is this a  new thing?
 
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and now  


   934,508!


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Bridget Evab wrote:How many from China? Can you tell how theyvaccesssvit? Direct or through search engines? Is this a  new thing?



Normally, 85% of our traffic is from the US.  But looking at the reports ...  it looks like we are seeing 4 times more traffic from china than from the US.

Direct.

This is a sudden spike - so yes, it looks like a new thing.  But we have had spikes over the years from different flavors of bots.  So I guess it is a new thing while simultaneously being not a new thing.

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Is it possible that Li Ziqi mentioned Permies.com on some form of China's social media...?

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uh  ....


   1,158,736!


That is one day.  Saturday.

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Our daily traffic has not beaten saturday, but ...  our traffic for the whole month is already ahead of our all time record month (last month).

We are currently at 14 million for january.  And our daily traffic is a wee bit less than a million a day.

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paul wheaton wrote:A new monthly record!

      11,684,533 visits!



that was november.

december:  12,609,023


january


      17,175,586 visits!



Wow.


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paul wheaton wrote:uh  ....


   1,158,736!


That is one day.  Saturday.



another record day.  

yesterday:


   1,270,106!





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   1,158,736!

That is one day.  Saturday.



another record day.  

yesterday:

   1,270,106!



Despite some server trouble yesterday, we hit a new record!



   1,519,915!



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Without a commensurate/massive increase in registrations, first postings and other site interactions, we should perceive the unique blend of open source  information here is training AI models worldwide?
 
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Maybe.  Probably.

I like the idea of teaching permaculture to ai.

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checking stats ...   we have a report that is generated for staff every day.  It shows stats for this week, the same week a year ago and the same week five years ago ...

accounts created

5 years ago  335
1 year ago    199
this year       170


topics created

5 years ago    328
1 year ago      346
this year         142


replies

5 years ago     1944
1 year ago       2075
this year          3052





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Just wanted to chime in here to say that google definitely does like permies because forums tend to perfectly fit searcher intent (someone has generally asked the exact same niche question in the past). I myself found the site when searching for information about naturally sealing ponds...

That being said, there is also an enormous wave of bot traffic on almost all websites coming from Lanzhou, China (the company I work for is also experiencing this). It all comes from data-centers scraping data to train AI, the average session lasts less than a second and puts almost no strain on the website server... they can get around cloud-flare checks, but generally wont bother logging in or creating accounts, so traffic will be focused on pages which can be accessed without login.

As you showed though, there is an uptick in sign-ups and posts, so the forums are definitely getting more popular! Just wanted to mention that the China traffic is, as you suspected, potentially not as exciting as one might initially think... Although maybe we'll generate a super permie AI that will go rouge and reshape the world someday!

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