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Taming the Reciprocating Saw

 
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Hi Folks. I really like my recip saws on the homestead, battery and plug-in, but I'm seeing comments where people have problems with them.

I like their flexibility, and with a range of instant-change blades they take on a lot of rough work at a moment's notice. (My big Stihl chainsaw is great, but it's a honking monster tool for monster-size jobs -- not for quick casual stuff or working up top a 30 foot ladder.)

What tricks can you share? Or experiences? Or problems? Maybe we can put our heads together and get the best out of these little workhorses.



 
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While I am sympathetic with those who complain about the vibration, I have not found it to be too bad. Then again, I keep and older B&D around for ladder work. That way I can drop the thing without concern about the loss.
 
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We used to use a Sawzall reciprocating saw around here lots, but I never tried it for pruning.
Amazing tool for all sorts of jobs, though.  I used a plug-in type - for cutting holes in walls mostly for access to conduits etc.
always was bothered by the vibration, but I do think of it as a great tool for accessing difficult spots that need cutting.

For larger-than-lopper gauge pruning cuts on fruit/nut trees I like a nice sharp hand-saw made for the purpose.
I do get joint fatigue from too much of that, but the Sawzall gives extra stress to my 'under insulated' nervous system... so I stick with judicious use of hand tools as much as I can.



 
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I think if you waxed the blade it would slice through things easier, no different than waxing a handsaw to get the same result. I often wax my screws before driving them if they are especially long or the wood is hard. Wax on steel really makes a difference.

But I just no longer use my reciprocating saw much. Its versatile and powerful, but other tools have really came along and replaced it.

For cutting steel, I found a thin wall grinding wheel works better.

For cutting in new outlets in an old wall, a multi-tool has greater control and does not break the keys out of my old horsehair plaster.

For cutting notches, my jigsaw has finer control.

For pruning my hand-held chainsaw works better and faster.

For long rip cuts, my skillsaw works better and is provides a better straight cut.

For cutting long curves in boards, I prefer my jigsaw.

For cutting pipes for plumbing, I get better control and can cut closer with my multi-tool.

I have a reciprocating saw, and it is a battery powered Milwaukee so certainly not a junk saw, but it comes out very sporadically. Mostly it is in demolition when I need to cut nails or boards with nails in them. Then I am glad I have it. It has brawn and can make longer cuts.

It just seems to be one of those multi-tools. Yes it does many, many things, but it does none of them well. As my tool collection has grown, it just seems to get less and less use. I'll always have one, but it will last a very, very long time when used but a few minutes a year.
 
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Hmmm,

Ok, I really like the direction of both sides of comments here and I strangely agree with both sides.  

First in favor of the reciprocating saw:

1.  With skill and patience I can make detailed cuts that other saws either won’t make or will take forever to do.  I am reminded of a plunge cut I had to make on the deck I built on my first house.  I took it slow, but I made a cut right in the middle of the material.  This would have been challenging with other saws.

2.  A Recip saw is a sort of do-it-all saw.  I can cut wood, metal, even tiles in a pinch.  I just can’t see myself being without one.

3.  I have also heard similar arguments about a traditional cordless drill being obsolete when an impact drill can basically do everything a regular drill can but in a smaller, lighter package.  Maybe.  But I will not give up my cordless drill anytime soon.

4.  In a pinch, a reciprocal saw doubles as a lightweight chainsaw without the pain of maintaining a chain..

I suppose that on the bad side there are saws that can do everything that a reciprocating saw can do but more precisely, accurately, easier, etc.  but I still don’t see a saw as flexible as a sawzall and my tool kit is incomplete without one.


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I repeat my view that (in my experience*) an oscillating saw is superior: more adaptable, easier to control.

*Mostly doing electrical and other trades work rather than farming. Your mileage may vary.
 
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Ned, I have used an oscillating saw and in the right circumstances, you are absolutely correct.  It really is the ideal tool for fine cutting.

Now ripping and cutting--that's another matter entirely!



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Ned Harr wrote:I repeat my view that (in my experience*) an oscillating saw is superior: more adaptable, easier to control.

*Mostly doing electrical and other trades work rather than farming. Your mileage may vary.



I agree, you could cut dovetails with an oscillating tool, or what I call, and have called on here: a multi-tool.

Of course when you wee done cutting the dovetails you could scrape off the glue, sand the work, buff out the finish... with one billion different tools to put on it, there is not much it cannot do with it, and with finesse.
 
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those safety switches that have to be held down while pulling the trigger make them just that much more difficult to use. I fixed that problem with some electrical tape to hold it down but that only lasted temporarily. I guess surgery is need to jump the wire eliminating the safety with. kind of reminds me of those spring loaded shutoffs on new gas cans that have to be pulled down in order to dispense gas out the spout that many times causes spills of the combustable refined dinosaur juice.
the extra long blades made for cutting branches actually work very well once you get the machine to run. but in no way compare to what a chainsaw will do. but battery powered sawsall has its place in pruning and cutting.
 
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Douglas Alpenstock wrote:What tricks can you share? Or experiences? Or problems? Maybe we can put our heads together and get the best out of these little workhorses.



I like putting the blade in "upside down". Holding the saw the way it is supposed to be held, the teeth are pointing up if the blade is inserted the way I am describing.

I feel I have better control and I am able to get a nice close cut verses having the long portion of the guard and the rubberized handle protruding in the way.

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bruce Fine wrote:those safety switches that have to be held down while pulling the trigger make them just that much more difficult to use.


My (Milwaukee) reciprocating saw just has a push lock/unlock button and a trigger - you don't have to hold two buttons at once to make it work. I use it mostly for pruning - the blade gets into small spaces so can be more useful for delicate work. I find that it I have larger diameter wood to cut I just can't keep the cut square ( reported here)- the blade has a tendency to a curved cut.
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+1 for the upside down blade. Variable speed a must. Also, if you are framing on a slab, as in the photo above, keeps the tip out of the concrete.
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Having a hand on top, pushing down, blade inverted, calms the saw a bit. Holding from the bottom and pulling down, not the same.
The saw chatters in direct relationship to the aggressiveness of the blade. Likewise using a blade that is far too long for the depth of work, the whip of a blade on the far side will let you know. Shortest blade that will allow you to work, best.
The Milwaukee blade above is extremely aggressive. If it has been inadvertently dulled on one side, or if the tooth offset is not identical, then it would have a curved cut.
Likewise for those bow saws. The ones you buy at the big orange box typically are no longer ground with a taper to the back, the kerf is too tight, the teeth not enough offset. The contemporary, cost mandated, weak, thin blade......
Absolute misery.

Lenox makes bi-metal blades for the SawZall. 10 teeth per inch will limb a small tree easily, 18 tpi or so handles most demo. Both will cut a few overlooked nails with no negative effects and 18 tpi will cut most metal. Keep speeds down to allow teeth to work and to avoid dulling them. A selection of these two blades, especially the 18, will do 90% of the work you'd likely ask this saw to do.
For cutting old lath, a fine metal cutting blade works well, moderate blade/travel speed, lean the saw slightly in direction of travel, helps keep lath tight to plaster.

Oscillating saws don't really belong in the same discussion as SawZalls. Not the same tool at all, but functions overlap.
Their size, smooth cut, and smaller kerf make them useful for remodel work, especially around drywall.

As a young framing apprentice, I once raced another carpenter down a hallway of a hotel we were framing in WestYellowstone, cutting out the wood floor plates in the door openings. He had a SawZall, I had a sharp Sandvik hand saw my dad had given me. No contest, I smoked him. New SawZalls are quite a bit faster, though.
 
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