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A fully repairable and future-proof laptop

 
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I know this subject is a little bit outside of the typical bounds of homesteading discussion, but I think this is an important topic that is relevant to many people involved in homesteading and permaculture. Most of us use a computer of some kind (we're on this forum, obviously, but some may use phones, tablets, etc). I use a high-end laptop for much of my work, and recently came across a company called Framework and upgraded to their "software developer" level laptop (13 Pro).

The fundamental value proposition of this company is to make computer hardware that the end user truly owns. This means that you can replace all of the main components/component groups using either their hardware sold on their website, or using hardware that you've sourced elsewhere. This is the biggest leap I've seen in recent memory for supporting the "right to repair" among computer manufacturers. The Input/Output slots on the computer (USB C, HDMI, Ethernet, etc) are also "hot swappable", meaning that you just slide out that port and put in a new one using their so-called "expansion cards". I am very excited to own a laptop that will allow me to upgrade the RAM/CPU/display down the road as new hardware becomes available or if my hardware becomes too outdated to continue performing the work that I need.

All of their devices some with Linux support out of the box as well, which is a big deal for those of us that are concerned with privacy and owning our data.

Here's the website: Framework. I think that many permies and permie families here would be well served by something like the Framework 12. I promise I am not sponsored by this company... I am just loving using my new repairable laptop and I think that other like-minded folks here would as well.

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One of their cheaper models, the Framework 12 laptop. Retails right now for ~$800.
One of their cheaper models, the Framework 12 laptop. Retails right now for ~$800.
 
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I understand the concept, but the price is steep for something that will need even more cash invested in the future. The problem is software and lazy developers, so all the IT world is rather the complete opposite of "sustainable".

I use a work laptop. For my home use I have a $100 laptop with XP Pro, AutoCad 14 (before it got a new annoying "rubbery feel" interface) and awesome Corel Draw 8. All the software performs beautifully. I use it for designing buildings, masonry heaters, metal objects for machining, stonework, etc. All the designs became real structures and objects.

The 3 components of the laptop that fail the most are:
keyboard/pad, screen connection, battery. My company laptop has pretty bad keyboard, but still an excellent battery (rather not replaceable in an easy manner - disposable phone style). It works in dusty, hot/cold environment and still is going strong. I could already get two new replacements but I want to keep it as long as it lasts to minimize waste. I have an external backup keyboard, in case this one fails completely.
My home one needs a new battery every 2-3 years - as the aftermarket clones are low quality and original is pricier than the laptop. I already have it for 12 years. This company, albeit a good concept, may not even exist after such a long time.

All my equipment is powered by direct-to-solar-panel connection.
 
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You might also be interested in this thread: https://permies.com/t/190426/environmentally-friendly-laptop-buy
 
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