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Matt Ferrall wrote:Having a thread open to discuss what is wrong with something is not telling anybody anything.What kind of person would bother to post on a thread they completely disagree with.There is other threads here about the downsides of certain technologies.Your not even allowed to post pro GMO permi stuff here even though some are into it.If folks think manipulation is so great,I would encourage them to spend their energies promoting such things.
Cris Bessette wrote:
Matt Ferrall wrote:Having a thread open to discuss what is wrong with something is not telling anybody anything.What kind of person would bother to post on a thread they completely disagree with.There is other threads here about the downsides of certain technologies.Your not even allowed to post pro GMO permi stuff here even though some are into it.If folks think manipulation is so great,I would encourage them to spend their energies promoting such things.
Having read the majority of the messages in this thread and been in some of the discussions, I still don't see " what is wrong with greenhouses ".
Regardless, I don't have any problem with people that don't want to use them.
It's been interesting to see what people would do as alternatives. Instead of fresh greens and veggies, maybe more canned and dried. root cellaring, reconstitutable foods,etc.
This might be handy when living on a boat on an ocean, or where there is a lot of darkness, like on a long mission in space.
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
Our inability to change everything should not stop us from changing what we can.
There is nothing permanent in a culture dependent on such temporaries as civilization.
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There is nothing permanent in a culture dependent on such temporaries as civilization.
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Shodo
Mountains and Waters Alliance
Shodo Spring wrote:I don't have a greenhouse yet because I'm planning to move.... or there would be one on my south side right now. Heated by the sun, heating the house a bit, and extending the growing season at least a bit here in zone (4?5? they keep moving. S MN) When I actually build/renovate my final house, it will be energy-positive - or maybe a tiny wood stove - because of using every passive solar technique in the book. So there! (I'd better look at the greenhouse sucks thread - if I can find it.
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
Our inability to change everything should not stop us from changing what we can.
Judith Browning wrote:Cris, that sounds wonderful. We all probably need more sun rooms, lots of glass no plastic. I think that the line I draw has to do with avoiding anything that involves more plastics in my life.
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Matt Smith wrote:Bless the hearts of all you patient souls who are legitimately trying to forge some kind of sensible debate out of this. While I wonder if your efforts are worth it, I do applaud your zen-like approach.
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C. Letellier wrote:
The point is that while this may not exactly be nature we can get benefits from it that I think far out weigh both the risks and the expense if we are smart about how we do it. The glazing is the only major piece of the puzzle that I see no semi permaculture valid options to get around.
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