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The innovative loom base and moveable pegs make it easy to weave fun shapes and create Woven pictures.
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Cindy Haskin wrote:
r - did you see the pic Anne posted? It shows how this loom can be manipulated to make the desired shape! Thank you for the input.
Other hand manipulated weaving like tapestry - you can work the warp back into the finished weaving for a fun shaped item.
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Cindy Haskin wrote:I think to implement my idea, a much larger base would need to be made to accommodate pattern pieces like pant legs, sleeves, and the main body parts. Or just use this as is and make the finished clothing look more patchwork.
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Anne Miller wrote:Cindy, I feel we would need to see the actual loom to be able to tell if it is possible to change the shape of the loom.
What does the literature that came with the loom say is possible.
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Carla Burke wrote:Dorothy, I absolutely LOVE that your group calls itself a "support group", lol - because fiber work/play/art really DOES become an addiction!
Do you have any personal experience with the Pampa loom?
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Cindy Haskin wrote:
R! Ranson - do you have any input on amount of shrinkage to expect by fiber? I do use alot of cotton warp 8/4 just to crochet bags for storage of future root crops, though that may not be what actually happens. The "hand manipulated" is something I hadn't thought of before, so I'm already learning more from you!!! This SAORI thing I need to learn more about it seems. Do you have any links to direct me?
r ranson wrote:
I do keep records... and I'm going to be a huge meany and not share them. BECAUSE, my records show there is a huge variation (up to 15%) depending on the loom, the mood of the weaver, the batch of the yarn, the humidity in the atmosphere, what music we listen to.... I give out my numbers, and so many factors can make them wrong. I would much rather empower people to weave samples. It's easy and they don't even have to be called samples. They can be "washcloths" or "tiny towels".
Hand manipulated weaving is one of my favourites. Some of the best and most complicated weaving I've seen was made on the simplest of machines. Pin looms are especially powerful because they don't have the dogma of centuries of "the one true path" teachings.
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Dorothy Pohorelow wrote:The pin looms come in two different configurations. One is has pins all the way around. You basicially go across the loom at an angle from one corner to the other your weave the square at the same time you are warping the loom. If you have ever seen a Tri loom it is that kind of weaving. On the ones with the groups of 3 pins you lay down 3 layers of warp then physically weave the fourth layer through them. Hard to explain in words but they make a different type of cloth.
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Kim Huse wrote:Cindy:
I have been using knitting looms for over 20 years. I have 2 of these Marth Stewart kits. You could conceivably make up the front and back of an item, say a pillow, int his case, and package those with directions on how to use the woven heart shapes, sewing together, stuffing.
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Cindy Haskin wrote:The Pampas loom for the vest is the kind of thing I was seeking, just not a vest necessarily. And I'd like a less pricey option.
I've kept my eyes open looking for other alternatives and have only just recently realized that the thing I seek can be made cheaply in cardboard. I don't know quite how many pieces can be made on one before degradation begins. As a big woman I would need a refrigerator box for the looms to make the fabric pattern pieces for a specific item of clothing.
I'm happy for you to have found a workable answer to your limitations. I am feeling considerable stiffness in my hands on cold days, and occasional pain in some joints now and then, so I know my time to work these ideas may have a time limit. Brightest Blessings to you, and thank you for your input.
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Or alternatively you can take narrow pieces of cardboard and make two layers with the corrugations at 90 degrees to each other, assuming a thicker layer would work. I think I've seen the cardboard loom idea somewhere, and some of the examples looked really wimpy to me. The two layers would need to be firmly attached - white glue might be the easiest.Dorothy Pohorelow wrote:Remember you can make like half a front and seam pieces together which would allow you to use narrower pieces of cardboard...
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I "think" what you're implying here is that you want to make fewer, "shaped looms" as from what I understand from this whole thread, is that you need a shaped loom for each piece - although technically pattern pieces that say, "cut two" you could use the same loom, but work on the "top side" and then work on the "bottom side".First thing I think I need to do is find a pattern that works well for me with fewer pieces.
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Jay Angler wrote:Cindy Haskin wrote:
I "think" what you're implying here is that you want to make fewer, "shaped looms" as from what I understand from this whole thread, is that you need a shaped loom for each piece - although technically pattern pieces that say, "cut two" you could use the same loom, but work on the "top side" and then work on the "bottom side".First thing I think I need to do is find a pattern that works well for me with fewer pieces.
To my mind, it's a balance. Having a bunch of narrow pieces of weaving allow you to shape the finished garment without cutting or adding thickness with darts. If I was going to do this much work, I'd want something that really suits my figure and fits well, and fewer pieces could defeat that goal.
My lizard brain is saying, "be careful what you wish for" - and I really want you to tackle this project *and* be pleased with the results, so please consider at least doing a scrap fabric mock-up of the pattern you decide on. My lizard brain isn't always on the right track and it may be misinterpreting what you're thinking - there's a place for simplicity but there's also a place for "well-tailored"!
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Dorothy Pohorelow wrote:Grin I believe you are thinking of something like a Pampa loom. https://www.pampaloom.com/en/
I have seen them and things made from them posted in the pin loom weaving group I am https://www.facebook.com/groups/pinloomweaving However most of us seem to just make squares, rectangles, hexagons (the turtle looms) and related shapes then sew them together to make clothing, etc.
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Nancy Reading wrote:Cindy, I think that could be a genius moment of yours! Pity you've made it permies, that could be a patentable idea! (or is that not a problem in the US?) If you had a precious yarn (such as home spun!) you could end up with zero fabric waste and still have intricately shaped garments. Of course your loom may well be restricted in adaptability or size, but I think the concept is excellent.
If your loom is small, you may have to make an extra seam or so to make larger pieces.
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Dorothy Pohorelow wrote:
Carla Burke wrote:Dorothy, I absolutely LOVE that your group calls itself a "support group", lol - because fiber work/play/art really DOES become an addiction!
Do you have any personal experience with the Pampa loom?
Be forewarned we do a lot of enabling in the group also... No personal experience with them but I have seen projects from them posted in the group. Grin I am still collecting pin looms from different makers. And the makers are still developing different looms based on pin spacing, shape etc. Bluebonnet Crafts developed a hexagon and has now a whole line of sizes, pin spacing, and elongated hexagons you can get. Wunderwag looms is now adding a line of looms with wider spacing almost like the Blue Butterfly looms. Um yeah I love my pin looms because they are so portable mine are mostly squared but range from 1 inch to 6 inch squares and rectangles.
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Cindy Haskin wrote:I have a peg loom that allows me to change the shape of my woven piece. Conceivably circles or stars. So I wonder about creating custom shapes in the shape of fabric pattern pieces...? Anybody care to chime in on thoughts whether it's even a thing? I'm afraid I have that loom packed and in the middle of a first try in pastel cotton.
This has been on my mind off and on since I received it as a gift. I think the enclosed literature may have shown this concept, or I picked it up during some online hunt for ideas.
Looking at the heart shape in this article as an example of what I mean by shaped loom, but in the shapes of your pattern pieces. Then sew those together to achieve the item of clothing. http://crochetisfun-amani.blogspot.com/2013/12/weaving-heart-using-martha-stewart-loom.html?m=1
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Jay Angler wrote:
Personally, I would mostly stick with what I've been working on - finding patterns that are largely based on rectangles and adapting them to fit me. Learning to use gussets to replace complicated shapes that are integral with single pattern pieces, or simply being prepared to "piece" fabric like they did in the past to make better use of a yard of material. Our current sewing/clothing industry is based on cheap material and cheap labor and has resulted in tremendous pollution and waste. The fact that the OP is at least thinking about that issue and suggesting an alternative, is worthy!
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